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| ▲ | 0manrho 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| My understanding is that this is just showcasing a website that introduces/makes it easy to digest the EAM as a concept, not that there's anything particularly worrying happening on these frequencies in the present moment. I don't monitor these regularly so perhaps I'm wrong, but given it's encrypted (likely with a OTP), you'd have to be mining metadata and making some second order dot connections to really get anything meaningful out of this without the cipher/OTP/some way to decrypt it and understand it. |
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| ▲ | betterunix2 an hour ago | parent [-] | | It is OTP, that is not a secret. The secret is not how the orders are being communicated, it is the actual meaning of the orders (e.g. the targeting pattern) and certain strategically significant details about how a launch order would be executed (e.g. if only one pair of launch keys is turned there is a timeout during which another missileer crew can cancel the launch; the length of that timeout is secret). During the cold war nuclear strategy was the subject of extensive research by both the US and the USSR, which is why both sides wound up pursuing essentially the same strategy. (China is interesting because strictly speaking they follow a theoretically suboptimal strategy -- they keep their ICBMs in an unarmed configuration and would "absorb the blow" of a surprise nuclear first strike. The US and RF follow the theoretically optimal "launch on warning" strategy, which requires ICBMs that are always armed and ready to launch within minutes.) |
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| ▲ | jacquesm 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > Is there something extra scary happening? You might get something out of how frequently there are announcements on this channel. That's the only real info you're going to get out of this unless you're in a very select group. |
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| ▲ | stackghost 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Are you implying you’re part of that group? Just curious what the context of your 13 minutes comment was. | | |
| ▲ | jacquesm 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | That's how long a typical submarine based hit of a Russian missile on the USA would take from launch to detonation over target. Land based would take maybe twice that much. Effectively the world has been 30 minutes from 'dead' since the 1960s. | | |
| ▲ | lazide 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | It’s why the US mostly gave up on fallout shelters - no realistic amount of time to get to them unless you’re already sitting on it. | | |
| ▲ | betterunix2 an hour ago | parent [-] | | It's more that fallout shelters are basically useless even if you manage to get yourself inside before the detonation. Basically, you would run out of water, and even if you have clean water you would still run out of food, even if you survived the strike and the fallout. We cannot actually live without major transportation hubs to deliver food etc., which by necessity are located in or near the major urban areas that would be destroyed in a nuclear war. That, more than anything else, is why the US and USSR ultimately abandoned "civil defense" and focused on "deterrence." |
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