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▲ cwbriscoe 2 hours ago

What predicament are we in?

▲edoceo an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Consolidated and Sanitized media controlled by a few brands, that coordinate propaganda messaging.

▲lotsofpulp 44 minutes ago | parent [-]

In my almost 4 decades of life, today is the least amount of control over information that leaders have had, whether political or business.

When I was younger, the only way information, and especially video/audio was spread is via a select few outlets.

Today, anyone can upload anything to a variety of servers and spread the information within seconds.

▲verdverm 31 minutes ago | parent [-]

> Today, anyone can upload anything

This is not necessarily better, I'm still unsure myself. I would like it to be true, but misinformation and foreign influence campaigns are much more effective these days.

The most significant change is that we no longer have a shared reality. Before our current situation, at least we got the same news. Today we get different hyperbole.

▲ozgrakkurt 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

what is a predicament?

▲verdverm 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

the greatest wealth concentration and inequity in american history, blatant corruption and nepotism

an out of control, bipartisan oligarchy

The majority of HN has been on the winning side of this equation, benefiting greatly from the rise of the computer, internet, and now Ai. This is not most people, we forget about them, we tell them it's their own fault when it is not. The game is not fair, it's rigged for most humans.

Michael Sandel explains it better than I can yet

▲extraextra an hour ago | parent [-]

Funny how within 4 comments we've went from mundane tech news to communist political philosophers

▲ezst an hour ago | parent [-]

What about OP's comment rings communistic, or even political to you? Or is it the link between information control and wealth consolidation that you find controversial?

▲extraextra an hour ago | parent [-]

I have clearly never claimed that OP is a communist, you're misinterpreting

He did, however, recommend an author at the end of his comment, and that's whom I was referring to when I said "communist political philosopher"

▲verdverm 39 minutes ago | parent [-]

Michael Sandel is not a communist, he thinks capitalism and markets are the better way to organize an economy. He's trying to reframe the conversation around meritocracy, the inequality this leads to, and distributive vs contributive justice.

Distributive is more the communist / far-left take from the rich and give to the poor. Contributive is about the dignity of work. People are happiest when they are part of a community, have work which can support a family and contribute to the greater good, and above all receive social recognition for their contributions. (like the essential workers during COVID we rarely speak of these days)

While we've always had technological advancement and automation, the computer changed things. We stopped producing new types of tasks for many humans. Almost all new tasks are cognitive. We told people "if you want to get ahead in the new economy, go to college." Well, most people do not have college degrees, and within that there is an implicit insult that if they are suffering, it is their fault for not doing what we told them. The people who rigged the game also obviate these people and make it harder for the average person to have a decent life.

I recommend his conversations with Daron Acemoglu. Both have perspectives worth hearing and considering.