Moonshot is 300 employees and about to do a 50B ipo. Going to toe to toe with US counterparts with not even a tenth of the resources.

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gpt5 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Talking point #6 - https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1xdquz5/kimi_a...

	▲	impossiblefork an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Surely not really? The card emphasizes training resources, the other comment emphasizes ingenuity and few people?

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adenta 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean... They just copy the US's homework, so I would hope they can run a leaner operation.

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Slartie 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You mean that "homework" that the US labs stole from me and billions of others before?

Yeah, I gladly get some of the fruits of that work back!

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adenta 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Oh for sure. The American labs distill society.

The Chinese labs distill the American models.

Someone will etch the Chinese models into silicon and then your toaster will have depression, it's the natural cycle of things.

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kylehotchkiss 2 hours ago | parent [-]

ugh now my toaster needs a 8t param model?? What is it doing, analyzing every grain of wheat used to manufacture my bread?

	▲	Bluestein an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		"I need to push back on that ..." [Poing! Out pops the toast ...]
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teyopi 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

'just copy the US's homework'

elaborate please.

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axpy906 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Distilled off of OpenAI and Anthropic models

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russli1993 2 hours ago | parent [-]

since openAI and Anthropic are public about their anti-distillation mechanism, its either their anti-distillation doesn't work or kimi got here because their own training and RLs. Which one is it?

	▲	adenta an hour ago \| parent [-]
		I have no idea how you block distillation. Every time you do inference, thats basically distilation.

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randbyte 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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