| ▲ | Sony Retires Its Last 4K Blu-ray Player in Japan, PS5 Is All That's Left(techpowerup.com) |
| 57 points by speckx 3 hours ago | 41 comments |
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| ▲ | nphardon 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| I quit all streaming services about 6 months ago and am strictly on CD's DVD's and records. I recommend it. The library has a ton of stuff, and if enough demands comes back maybe dvd shops will open back up. Its really nice, no ads, no data mining, no supporting awful streaming services, no subs, finite choice. Again, I recommend it. |
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| ▲ | LollipopYakuza 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| If Blu-ray is diseapearing, what's left for people who care about media quality? Last time I checked, the quality on legal streaming platform was barely comparable with Blu-ray. Did this improve? |
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| ▲ | wmf 31 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Kaleidescape has the same or better quality than Blu-ray. It's DRMed and probably won't continue to work if the company goes out of business though. | | |
| ▲ | Retr0id 3 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I'm tempted to buy one of their boxes and tell claude to make no mistakes, but if they're smart they're also using watermarking so cracking the DRM alone will not be enough. |
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| ▲ | Retr0id 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | As long as they keep making the disks, they'll keep making their way onto my jellyfin instance via a series of tubes. | |
| ▲ | andrepd 5 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yarrrrrrr | | |
| ▲ | wmf 2 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Pirated files will never be higher quality than the source. If streaming is the only thing left in the future it will be the limit of quality. I heard the other day there are a few shows that are streaming in 4K but the discs are only HD. |
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| ▲ | Jhsto 23 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Some of my friends insist on watching movies only in 4K, but once I secrectly played a proper 1080p BluRay copy and they would not believe it was 1080p. Not much to do with the OP other than that it's been a long time since even the "tech-savy" have watched anything on disc. I guess 95% or more live with whatever potato bitrate they get from streaming services. |
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| ▲ | gnabgib 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Discussion (41 points,22 hours ago, 14 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50201821 Strange media sources though: FlatPanelsHD (5 points, 1 comment) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50199610 DarkHorizons (3 points) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50199874 PushSquare (41 points, 14 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50201821 |
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| ▲ | WheelsAtLarge 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I feel like we need an open source DVD and CD so that they will survive for the long term. Streaming is nice but I don't want to pay monthly fees forever just to hear the music I like. |
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| ▲ | wmf 5 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | DVD and CD are completely documented formats, the DRM has been cracked, and the patents are expired. Blu-ray patents are about to expire. | |
| ▲ | to11mtm 17 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | FWIW me reading the headline alone was enough to help justify a NAS purchase with my not-as-tech-inclined wife so we can just start dumping things there one way or another... | |
| ▲ | unfocso 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You mean, a jailbroken ps3? :) | | |
| ▲ | spike021 17 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | if yours even works. i went through four or five with varying issues. yellow light of death, blinking red light | |
| ▲ | accrual an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | PS3 is a great Blu-ray player IMO. Solid console, solid controller, good laser implementation. Just pop it in and it Just Works. Seeing a native Blu-ray (god I hate typing that out) on my then 1080p Panny Plasma was a sight to behold. The quality was fantastic, incredible detail and color in a dark room. I miss the console, the television, and the couch I sat on. All of that is gone. But I still remember the glory of seeing it for the first time. | | |
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| ▲ | selectodude 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I think at this point it’s called vinyl. | | |
| ▲ | 0x457 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Vinyl is far from open source CD due to limitations of phisical format and the fact that good vinyl contains specifically mastered for vinyl with those limitations taken into account. You can still easily buy Bluray player and open source your discs with ARM (not CPU/SoCs, different one) | | |
| ▲ | ginko an hour ago | parent [-] | | If you're referring to the RIAA equalization curve[1] that is completely open and well defined. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA_equalization | | |
| ▲ | sam1714 42 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Like all analog formats, vinyl has a non-linear response. Things like total amplitude and frequency content affect noise and distortion when reproduced. Another factor is that it's a constant angular velocity medium, so the response is different at the beginning than the end. These are factors that a good mastering engineer takes into account. This occurs in the digital world as well. When we went to DVDs, the studios had encoders/authoring engineers, who tweaked compression parameters per scene, as compression is another non-linear process. For example, they might apply a small amount of blur on a dark scene where film grain trips up the compression. Eta: Apple provides the exact pipeline [1] they use for their services so the sound engineer can listen to the output and adjust. [1] https://www.apple.com/apple-music/apple-digital-masters/ |
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| ▲ | Avamander an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | I really hope not, there isn't a single redeeming quality to vinyls from any practical point of view. | | |
| ▲ | estebank an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | The big album art? | | |
| ▲ | Avamander an hour ago | parent [-] | | I'll give it that, though the size in general is a downside for more people than it is a benefit. |
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| ▲ | GuinansEyebrows 34 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | to play a record, i don't need a computer or any electronics created after, say, 1960 or so. that's a nice benefit :) | | |
| ▲ | kibwen 9 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Better yet, you don't need any components in the supply chain that weren't well within the means of people 100 years ago. Vinyls and Edison cylinders will outlive every CD ever made. |
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| ▲ | Reason077 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Pretty wild that even the PS5 still has a blu-ray player and that PS5 games still come on optical discs. No doubt this adds significantly to the costs of both the PS5 hardware and to the costs of game distribution. I have a feeling the PS6 won’t have an optical drive… |
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| ▲ | cowlevel an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Don't need to guess, they literally told us there will be no more physical media, ever. | |
| ▲ | Avamander an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The PS5 optical drive is still incapable of handling Dolby Vision, which is a massive shame. | | |
| ▲ | zerocrates an hour ago | parent [-] | | I think it's just that Sony doesn't want to pay to license Dolby Vision, not any actual technical reason. |
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| ▲ | Hamuko an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Sony has already announced the end of physical games for the PS5. If the PS6 will have an optical drive, it'll be an add-on and only for backwards compatibility purposes. Any kind of a PS6 optical drive will definitely not add significantly to its retail price though. | |
| ▲ | tonymet an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | and the disks are only used for entitlements, not for the game. when you stick the disk in, the game is downloaded. |
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| ▲ | cisc 35 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| So much for the "buy once, watch many" model. Now it's buy continuously through a subscription, watch for as long as the deal remains in place to provide that particular movie on that particular platform, and thrill to having your individual viewing habits tracked, catalogued, and monetized. |
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| ▲ | maxdo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Agent of the future will reverse engineer blue rays for you , bingo , order laser , home robot will assemble and read the device . |
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| ▲ | tonymet an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Regulars to 4k forums know that nearly all the 4k players on the market suck, with regular lock-ups. I have a high end sony 4k player , and it crashes with double-layer disks. 4k blu ray player development hasn't had any innovation for 7+ years. The new products are mostly recycling the chips & firmware from years ago. Still java-based and buggy |
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| ▲ | dylan604 3 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | > Still java-based and buggy well, yeah. the Blu-ray format is based on Java. what would you expect, Rust? Go? I know it's HN, but come on already. A format does not change how it works because you don't like the language it is based on. | |
| ▲ | kolinko 33 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | I have a modern 4k dedicated player and I enjoy the experience once I got audio and video properly configured (which was a surprising pita). You put in the disc, it plays, if you want subtitles you press the subtitles button, that’s it. I never had it hang or anything like that, and there is no bullshit internet connectivity/ads etc. The only thing I’d like improved is better streaming/playing local files. I never encountered any hangs, slowdowns or any other problem really. | | |
| ▲ | dylan604 2 minutes ago | parent [-] | | except you've left out very critical information like make/model of said mythical player |
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| ▲ | add-sub-mul-div an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Unfortunately, people are going to get the future they deserve. |
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| ▲ | Gravityloss 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Hard to find a good cassette player nowadays too. |
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