Probably something like:

MiniMax -> Qwen -> DeepSeek (pro) -> Gemini (Carbon) -> Fable (to beat Carbon) -> Astra (to be slightly worse than Fable but cheaper).

I doubt we'll see any major US release besides Grok in the next 3 weeks.

Would be nice if we got a Terra that's competitive with Gemini Flash and DeepSeek Flash.

The fun part is, we're already at the point where we are seeing something frontier-ish almost every single week.

The really fun part will be when they all start adding System 1-3 natively (IMO) - which I think will be the next release cycle.

henry700 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Would be nice if we got a Terra that's competitive with Gemini Flash and DeepSeek Flash.

GPT 6.1 Sol is already the new Terra IMO. Same pricing as old Terra and competitive performance with even Astra on strictly coding-oriented tasks.

It's almost like there's a dimension besides time which is important - speed, which Sol 6.1 moved vastly in the wrong direction on...

	▲	0xcoffee 27 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		This is repeated a lot however the benchmarks show sol 6.1 does well on time per task: https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/releases/gpt-6-1-sol?in...

I doubt we'll see Grok either. After the 4.7 disaster, I doubt they want to be embarrassed with 4.8.