I’ll vote with my vote thank you. My table’s manufacturer shouldn’t get a say in what I put on my table, and Apple shouldn’t get a say about my phone either.

These clearly anti-consumer practices should just be illegal.

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theK 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Which country does this vote happen in?

Last I heard even EU policy was ways off of that target.

Also: EU policy is very shcceptible to political tides. Sure now we love to scream sovereignty from the rooftops but that is guaranteed to change eventually.

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carlosjobim 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Apple shouldn’t get a say about my phone either.

They operate the factories manufacturing the phones. They have total say about their phones, and you have no say. Your almighty powers within the Linux terminal doesn't extend beyond it.

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_aavaa_ 3 hours ago | parent [-]

And my table manufacturer operates the factories that makes it, that doesn't mean we give them the right to dictate how we use it.

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carlosjobim 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Nobody dictates how you can use your iPhone either. You can do anything with it physically that you are capable of. Apple will never say a word.

Just like Apple with their products, the table manufacturer decides the exact measurements and materials of the table. You vote with your wallet and purchase the product you prefer, or make your own if you are capable.

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_aavaa_ 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> Nobody dictates how you can use your iPhone either ... physically

Come on. You know very well what we're talking about. This whole discussion started about software. Can I can load any app I want? Can I remove any app I want? I can remove their ads from my phone?

No of course not. I can put my app on my phone only if they bless it. I can't sell an app to another iPhone user and have them use it without apple's blessing. I can't remove the ads they keep spamming me for iCloud, or whatever service they release this month.

And please don't tell me it's because I get a license rather than a purchase since that's exactly my point. You wouldn't accept a license agreement for your table, and there would be outrage and major public backlash if any they tried; "Here's your made in china table, you are not allowed to place an American flag on it".

But because it's sprinkled with magic software dust, we have people in comment threads simping for the right of companies to do this to their customers.

	▲	carlosjobim 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		If you have the skills to do it you can do everything you ask for there. If you don't then you should buy or make a device that suits your preferences. Vote with your wallet. Nobody forced you to buy an iPhone. Would you buy a Honda Civic and cry that Honda is not permitting you to get the functions you wanted from it? If you have the skills, you can do whatever you want with your car physically and Honda won't stop you. If you don't have the skills, you have to buy a car that suits better your preferences. Whether that's hauling logs, having more horsepower, removing seatbelts, or whatever you like.

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hector_vasquez 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'll vote with my vote as well, and my vote will not be for candidates who equate computers with tables. Hacking isn't a human right. Go buy a different phone if you don't like Apple's phones. There are a bunch to choose from.

	▲	_aavaa_ 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Idk what point you think you're making, but human rights aren't an absolute law of nature, it's something we decide on. > Hacking isn't a human right. Hacking is such a loaded term for "the right to use the thing I purchased how I see fit". > Go buy a different phone if you don't like Apple's phones. There are a bunch to choose from. This is beside the point (and may not always be true). The ability for the manufacturer of a thing I bought and ostensibly own to tell me how to use my property. It's really not that hard to understand. The fact that it's a computer doesn't change anything.