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▲ ctoth 6 hours ago

I'm blind. Apple has explicitly said they wouldn't consider the "bloody ROI" of accessibility (will fund it no matter what). This is important to me. Software freedom is also important to me. What am I to do?

▲elmer2 9 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Choose an alternative. Plenty of non-Apple phones out there.

I stopped buying Apple phones years ago.

▲forgotaccount3 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> What am I to do?

Pick your priorities. There will never exist enough products to check all of the boxes that all of the people say is important to them. There is someone out there who would much rather have a product cost some amount less at the cost of accessibility features but they think a device that 'just works' is important so they buy the iPhone anyway.

▲kulahan 3 hours ago | parent [-]

The point is that your conclusion here is both the correct/obvious one, and that it ensures one explicitly cannot vote with their wallet. They have priorities too significant to be able to take part in the protest. They are invisible to the company they WANT to vote for.

▲tgma 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Perhaps what allows Apple is to be better at certain things like that or security for average consumer is indeed at odds with some aspirations? At least in practice, not utopian dreams, that seems to be the case.

So you vote with your wallet for accessibility despite freedom and the rest of hacker news do the opposite and it all works itself out.

▲fsflover 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> What am I to do?

Support NGOs fighting for your freedom like https://eff.org.

▲well_ackshually 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You grab an Android phone anyways because Android accessibility is very much on par or even better than whatever slop Apple is putting out with VoiceOver these days, and developers also somewhat care about it more on Android.

You're also going to benefit from European mandates to have accessible mobile apps anyways, it's coming for free to you.

▲NetMageSCW 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Nope - iPhone accessibility is much better than any alternative.

▲nozzlegear 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> You're also going to benefit from European mandates to have accessible mobile apps anyways, it's coming for free to you.

Not true, the EU tried to become a regulatory superpower and largely failed to export its rules to the rest of the world. Instead, Apple and Google just aren't bringing new features to the EU anymore.

▲seszett 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What features are missing in the EU, though?

▲well_ackshually 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If you know of any company that would bother to spend days making accessibility improvements, yet for some reason decide to not bring those to the US release, they're the dumbest fucking company in existence.

The EU accessibility mandates will be followed by apps, not by platforms. I don't care if Apple Music wants to keep being trash, Spotify, Deezer and Tidal will improve and lift everyone with it.