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▲ joshdavham 7 hours ago

Be the change you want to see in the world! If you disagree with this bill don’t sit idle!

▲betaby 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I too receive auto-replies from my MP.

▲kennywinker 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I have an MP i can reliably count on to vote against bullshit like this, which means i have nobody who is accountable to me to write emails to.

▲betaby 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Liberal MPs are going to vote as party says without exceptions. Aslos this https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/liberal-star-candidate-...

▲kennywinker 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I wouldn't except a liberal MP to vote against this, it's their own plan. I wouldn't expect a conservative MP to vote against this, they believe in neoliberalism and entrenching gov and corporate power the same way the liberals do (see bill C-39, supported by both the liberals and conservatives).

Luckily we don't have a two party system in canada.

▲ipaddr 3 hours ago | parent [-]

If not living in Quebec does any other party even hold party status?

▲betaby an hour ago | parent [-]

Green? NDP?

▲LeBit 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I am Canadian.

I think this bill is absolutely horrible.

What do you want me to do?

▲EmbarrassedHelp an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Raise awareness about the legislation and what it means for the average person (bans on iMessage, WhatsApp, Signal, VPNs, etc...) You need to also start emailing and calling members of the Senate, telling them to reject the bill.

▲ipaddr 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Drive to Ottawa and take over the downtown core.

▲deadbabe 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It’s over. If it got this far, they wanted this.

▲cute_boi 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is a coordination problem, so people can't do anything.

▲slopinthebag 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

there is literally nothing people can do. the party in charge has a majority government and a media biased enough to sell this bill as a positive thing.

the only thing that could make a difference is if apple, whatsapp, and instagram all blocked canadians from using those services. the liberal party and the media would still find a way to blame trump for it, and the pm's popularity would increase.

▲EmbarrassedHelp an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> the only thing that could make a difference is if apple, whatsapp

That is literally what is going to happen if this legislation is allowed to pass. WhatsApp will block Canada, and Apple will remove any impacted service from Canada, like iMessage.

▲cowlevel 36 minutes ago | parent [-]

If that's true, wouldn't it be a good thing? It would be repealed.

But I don't think that's true. They will comply. They always comply.

▲shovas 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Remember that media bias comes from being state funded media. Of course they're going to massage the narrative towards the party giving them funding.

▲wk_end 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Canada has a free press, and many of its largest media outlets (the Sun, the National Post, the Globe, etc.) are strongly right-leaning and had no problems tarring Trudeau's Liberals night and day when he was in power. This is a problem you've invented, not the actual issue here.

▲cmrdporcupine 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

what are you even on about, this is complete nonsense

nevermind half the population doesn't even pay attention to traditional "the media" these days

the bulk of "the media" in Canada is US owned, not "state funded" (which is only the CBC) and I haven't gotten any particular pro-vibes around this bill from them

▲tredre3 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I've never gotten such vibes either (that being said the alignment of the CBC isn't exactly neutral either, their french counterpart seems more neutral).

But I have spent/wasted enough time online to know that Conservatives do truly believe that the CBC is very biased against them and thus should be defunded (or, alternatively, they often suggest giving the same amount of money to Rebel News).

▲ToucanLoucan 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is the worldwide liberal conspiracy in the room with us right now? Because all I see all over the place are various reactionary movements gaining power, ruining everything, and continuing to blame liberals for the failings of their quarter-brained policies.

▲slopinthebag 2 hours ago | parent [-]

there is no worldwide liberal conspiracy, i'm talking about the Liberal party of Canada

https://liberal.ca

▲munk-a 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Canada has problems - a state media that barks the party line isn't one of them. One political party would love you to believe that and it's aligned with the party south of the border that's trying to destroy media credibility across the board, but that's a political effort because transparency is an impediment to their agenda.

This isn't to say there aren't biases in media - there always is, everyone is biased in their own way - but the presence of that bias can be understood and having a robust pipeline for news is more important that trying to futilely eliminate all bias.

▲EmbarrassedHelp 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Just recently there was a large number of anti-encryption and anti-private messaging news reports/articles in Canada. They all came from a single shitty article from The Canadian Press News that was written by Nono Shen.

* https://www.thecanadianpressnews.ca/national/tumbler-ridge-c...

Major Canadian news outlets like CTV News were blindly following that article, and saying "something has to be done" about encrypted messaging: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLHkcOmcZOA

CTV news anchor Carolyn Jarvis was continuously pushing for AI-powered mass surveillance of all private messages in Canada throughout the news segment. And CTV News also falsely labeled Liz Repking as a "cybersecurity expert" and let her promote her anti-privacy views: https://www.ctvnews.ca/video/2026/10/07/they-have-a-shared-r...

Other articles on the subject had various anti-privacy/anti-encryption dog whistles like "going dark" included in them.

▲cmrdporcupine 2 hours ago | parent [-]

All of this can be true without stupidly calling it "state sponsored."

The US mainstream media is equally stupid -- "liberal" or "conservative" -- CNN or Fox both make me want to gouge my eyes out.

Those of us on the (real) left have been pointing out the problem with the broadcast media for decades. Concentration of ownership and private interests are the problem, and frankly the CBC is the least worst of the bunch here in the country.

Canada is currently under a mass nationalist fervour under which the Carney gov't is getting away with a lot. The thing is the stuff he is getting away with... is exactly the stuff the Conservatives also wanted to do anyways. So people on the right frothing at the mouth about the liberals just baffles me. He is literally implementing the full CPC platform from the last election.

▲ipaddr 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A group of newspapers / media outlets friendly to the government gets $35,000 per employee.

▲canadiantim 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's true the liberal party is aligned with the democratic party and otherwise joined at the hip, but I wouldn't say the democrats are trying to destroy media credibility across the board, the media has already done that themselves.

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▲slopinthebag 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

there is bias though. even prominent journalists agree, and cbc (the state-owned media) is rated as left-leaning.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/goldstein-two-prom...

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/cbc-news-media-bias