No, the problem is foreign companies. Foreign nations have interests and as a US citizen I want to only trust other US citizens with my security, so should any other citizen anywhere else e.g. India can rely on India.

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solatic an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I can't believe sibling commenters. As a citizen of country X, it should be easy to sympathize with the desire to only do business with other citizens of country X or businesses registered in country X. Why? Because if they wrong me in some way, then I can sue them in a court of law in country X.

All cross-border business is fundamentally import/export and comes with the same risk - that when I am wronged by someone in another country, I have no legal recourse. The exceptions to this rule (like airlines) are such enormous exceptions that there are literally international treaties (e.g. Montreal Convention) to enable it.

Nothing fundamentally US-centric about that point of view.

	▲	tptacek 3 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		You can want a nationalist Internet trust model, and 2027 is an extremely good year to build it, because the major browsers are all malleable. What you cannot reasonably expect is for the entire Internet to operate on a "these countries good, these countries bad" model, for many reasons, including that the citizens of your preferred countries are wildly outnumbered.

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bunderbunder an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As a US citizen, I don't love this mindset. The US has relatively lax rules around cybersecurity and consumer protection. Some other countries are even worse. Furthermore, I continue to participate in a relatively borderless global Internet. Unconditionally placing identity politics ahead of those realities is a strange and impractical choice for a great many people.

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rpdillon an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There are good and bad operators everywhere. It's naive to think they follow along nationalistic lines.

> only trust other US citizens with my security

I'm not sure what you mean, but this doesn't seem to be a coherent concept.

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petcat an hour ago | parent [-]

I think the point is that it's much easier to sue US companies and other US citizens than it is to sue some Indian company. The latter would require State Department involvement, whereas the former I could probably just do in my local court.

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tptacek an hour ago | parent [-]

Symantec faced no serious legal repercussions. It was simply distrusted by the root programs, the same way eMudhra will be. I think this is a just-so story.

	▲	petcat 41 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Legal repercussions would have to come from proven damages, and something like that seems like it would be very hard to prove. I'm not that familiar with the Symantec incident, but yeah, it sounds like the system corrected itself.

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mintplant an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I just had a horrifying vision of a world where we have to purchase separate certificates from local certificate authorities in each country where we want to make a website available. shudder

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cpburns2009 an hour ago | parent [-]

It would make more sense to make the CAs opt-in. Want to trust CAs for US and IN? Opt-in to both.

	▲	tptacek 3 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		You can do that now!

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paaloeye an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is it paranoia, stupidity, or ignorance? I really hope it's the last one. Suggested Google prompt: “How does WebPKI work; explain to a US-citizen ONLY by an US-citizen".

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rascul 20 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> only trust other US citizens with my security

Can't use a computer then.

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cvhc an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Millions of non-US citizens (foreign workers in the country and outsource workers) build American software. Too bad :doge:

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whynotmaybe an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And what about when you, as a US citizen, are in India?

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Vaushite an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So if you want to visit an Indian website, your browser should say "no! US websites only!"?

	▲	antonvs an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Russia, China, and North Korea approve!

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mathisfun123 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> as a US citizen I want to only trust other US citizens with my security

man fox news has really done a number on people's brains.....