When you go far left, everything looks far right.

Seriously, we have a problem labeling anything not left “far right”. It is of course by design and has always been (who is not with us is against us). Not that right is any better, but at list they don’t label everyone across “antifa” or whatever.

That said, i do not endorse Musk, especially his infamous gesture.

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Steltek 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You don't need to go anywhere to see that Musk is far right. If you're going to claim otherwise, you're gonna need to bring some solid evidence.

The "left" spans such a huge range right now that to be "not left" is basically far right. A Republican opposing Trump is _extremely_ rare (and usually excommunicates them from the party) while on the left, you have AOC, Omar, etc actively sharing a party with Fetterman and Manchin. Right/far-right was a thing in the 2010's but not any more.

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portmanteur 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Is there a list of things or beliefs that make someone "Far right"? Is there a list or reason why being labeled "far right" (by others, not oneself) should be disqualifying, or worthy of having your services abused? Nitter and its forks are in violation of the X.com terms of service, which is why they are facing legal challenges. Those challenges may be easily routed around with other technology, but Nitter and its forks are still violating the services brazenly. Are "far right" people beneath the law? Is it okay to steal from someone on the "far right"? Is it okay to commit violence against someone on the "far right"?

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strideashort 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ah yes, you only need to set the label, those who disagree need to prove the negative. Pretty typical.

What is “far right”, btw? What are objective measurable criteria?

> The "left" spans such a huge range right now that to be "not left" is basically far right

Jesus Christ, you can’t be serious. But then again, I am not surprised that you are.

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hagbard_c 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The right spans such a huge range right now that not to be right is to be "far-left". A "democrat" opposing the OmniCause ("climate, migration and 'palestine'") is _extremely_ rare and usually gets excommunicated from the Party, e.g. Fetterman and Manchin (whom you for some reason listed as 'democrats' even though the Party does its best to label and shun them) while on the right you have people ranging from Massey to Trump, Vance to Rubio, Wiles to Collins.

So maybe it is in the eye of the beholder? I certainly see far more labelling coming from the "left" side of the spectrum than from the "right" side although they're certainly catching up lately now that the communist zombie has risen from its grave again. On the "right" the general idea of the "left" seems to be that they're 'stupid', 'naive' and 'uninformed' while on the "left" the general idea of the "right" seems to be that they're 'evil', 'narrow-minded', 'racist' and '*-phobe'. Neither of these general ideas are true but that doesn't seem to bother anyone.

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surgical_fire 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Er, Musk did a Nazi salute and publicly supported the AfD in Germany.

What else do you need to agree that he is far right? Wear an SS outfit? Put some people in ovens?

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strideashort 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Ah, AfD, the party with female lesbians leader, right? typical far right, point taken.

Otherwise, yes, I think labeling any party which works within the legal bounds as “far” is dangerous. Because there are legit far groups which should not be permitted on both sides of the spectrum. And we better know what is legitimate and what not.

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bjoli an hour ago | parent | next [-]

The leader can be a lesbian and still far right. They are against gay marriage, against talking about homosexuality in schools. There were gay Nazis, even high up. Röhm for example.

Iirc Weidel herself has made statements regarding how the society should always promote heteronormativity.

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		> The leader can be a lesbian and still far right. Pure comedy at this point, seriously, this is hilarious.

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surgical_fire 44 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Do you think homosexuals can't be far right?

AfD wants to do mass deportations (because nothing bad ever happened when a party in Germany had the idea to mass deport people based on ethnicity). Their leader can be a lesbian and still have a platform that is pretty extremely to the right

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/09/07/europe/afd-first-place-sa...

> Otherwise, yes, I think labeling any party which works within the legal bounds as “far” is dangerous

Keep in mind that the NSDAP also operated within the legal boundaries.

Based on your asinine rationality, labeling the fucking nazis in early 1930s as far right would be "dangerous".

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		> Keep in mind that the NSDAP also operated within the legal boundaries. I am no expert but you might be correct - quick search shows they exploited legal loopholes, essentially hacked the system. I am afraid we haven’t learned much feom it as recent history shows. That said, legal framework has thankfully changed since and in Europe there is the Europen Convention of Human Rights, plus the constitutional rights. That said, they are not failable, and are equally explotable by left and right, especially if the conditions are right, such as fear. So ok, point taken, even those who operate within legal bounds today need to be watched closely - on all sides. And yes I think being homosexual and far anything is pretty weird, as neither far left nor right would tolerate homosexuality IMO. Socialism proved that. And btw, despite what historians tell, the NSDAP sold itself to the voters on the _left_ ideas. Fascism likewise. In fact, when blinded, some left thinkers have enforsed fascist ideas. Again, hilarious. But true. Here are some points from fascist manifesto if you don’t believe me: - Universal suffrage by regional list voting, with proportional representation, voting and eligibility for women. - Minimum age for voters lowered to 18; minimum age for deputies lowered to 25. - The prompt enactment of a state law enshrining the legal eight-hour workday for all jobs. - Minimum wages. - The participation of workers' representatives in the technical operation of industry. - The entrusting to the proletarian organizations themselves (who are morally and technically worthy) of the management of public industries or services. - The speedy and complete settlement of the railroad workers and all transportation industries. - A necessary amendment of the Disability and Old Age Insurance Bill by lowering the age limit, currently proposed at 65, to 55. It’s comical that an organisation endorsing and expanding these same ideas is called “antifa”. In fact, people today have no clue what fascism was, they just use it as label for whatever they disagree with, same as “far right”. Those who don’t know history are indeed condemned to repeat it.