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▲ nodrog3000 a day ago

So what is the government's sole purpose?

Also this is not the sole purpose of companies.. SpaceX is a trillion dollar company with 0 profit.

The free market has created everything you use the more we turn the keys over to government's the worse things get.

Companies can't get infinite profits because they will be undercut by other companies COMPETING. The government can get infinite power and control though.. they have no competition.

▲lostlogin a day ago | parent | next [-]

> Companies can't get infinite profits because they will be undercut by other companies COMPETING.

Isn’t that what this very link is about? Where is the competition and lower prices?

Power, water, food etc the story is the same - or at least it is where I am. New Zealand.

▲cowlevel a day ago | parent [-]

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential, demand.

▲zerot_ a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why are you pretending that utilities exist in a "free market" in any way?

▲nodrog3000 a day ago | parent [-]

I am arguing they should. We cannot afford to let the government control energy going forward.

▲stouset a day ago | parent [-]

I’m pretty sure many of us are actively unable to afford the private energy we’re having to pay for today.

▲boothby a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> SpaceX is a trillion dollar company with 0 profit.

And it got there in part through the evisceration of NASA.

> The free market has created everything you use the more we turn the keys over to government's the worse things get.

Government funds research that has brought us such advances as moon landings, computers, and the internet. What an odd example you chose in SpaceX

▲nodrog3000 a day ago | parent [-]

The SpaceX example was to demonstrate how profits aren't the sole goal of companies.

Yes after the monopoly of NASA ended we now have several real space companies doing real advancement.

I personally have never used one of these "government computers" have you?

▲stouset a day ago | parent | next [-]

Maximizing value to shareholders is a literal legal obligation of public companies. A company being unprofitable today does not mean they are not seeking to be highly profitable tomorrow.

▲boothby 19 hours ago | parent [-]

No it is literally not, and that misconception needs to die.

▲lostlogin a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> The SpaceX example was to demonstrate how profits aren't the sole goal of companies.

What would you say Musk’s goal is? And do we want more of that?

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▲duped a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> So what is the government's sole purpose?

To establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty.

> Also this is not the sole purpose of companies.

Friedman disagrees.

> The free market has created everything you use the more we turn the keys over to government's the worse things get.

Which is why we have never needed government regulation of things like food, air, water, shelter, work safety, accessibility, or anything else. The free market provides.

> The government can get infinite power and control though

Which is why in a free society the government is answerable to the people.

▲nodrog3000 a day ago | parent [-]

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▲vrganj a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> The free market has created everything you use the more we turn the keys over to government's the worse things get.

This might be your personal ideological creed, but it is not a self-evident axiom you can just assert with zero backing.

> Companies can't get infinite profits because they will be undercut by other companies COMPETING

Then why haven't they?

> The government can get infinite power and control though.. they have no competition.

Are you aware other countries with their own governments exist?

▲nodrog3000 a day ago | parent [-]

> This might be your personal ideological creed, but it is not a self-evident axiom you can just assert with zero backing.

Give an example of something the government does better than the market?

> Then why haven't they? Give an example where they haven't?

> Are you aware other countries with their own governments exist? And they all lose the most free market America? Why would we do more like them?

▲AngryData a day ago | parent | next [-]

> Give an example of something the government does better than the market?

Roads, electricity, water, heathcare, pensions, public transportation, and social services.

▲lostlogin a day ago | parent [-]

The pro free market Liberian crowd are yet to give an example of their system working.

The best government is deeply imperfect but the regulation free Libertarian paradise is probably best demonstrated by some warlord somewhere. Great for him, not for any other individual.

▲joquarky 20 hours ago | parent [-]

They always think they will be king of the hill.

▲vrganj a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> Give an example of something the government does better than the market?

This thread's topic, for starters?

> Give an example where they haven't?

This thread's topic, for starters?

> And they all lose the most free market America? Why would we do more like them?

I'm not quite sure what you're saying here, could you rephrase?