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▲ CGMthrowaway 4 hours ago

"Shareholder value" is just another way of saying return on capital. Do you want to reduce return on capital? (the answer could be yes or no, just advancing the discussion)

Or do you want to redistribute the ownership of capital?

▲StableAlkyne 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You're missing the last bit - shareholder value is return on capital for shareholders

The interests of the shareholders diverge quite strongly from the interests of electrical utility customers. It is generally a parasitic relationship where they consume resources that could have been spent improving utility service for the customers, either directly via dividends or indirectly by avaricious behavior on the part of the company in pursuit of their stock price.

▲pdonis 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> The interests of the shareholders diverge quite strongly from the interests of electrical utility customers.

Unless the customers are the shareholders, as in a co-op. The article's data seems to show that co-ops provide the cheapest electricity, which makes sense because the owners are the same people as the users, so the incentives are aligned.

▲program_whiz 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

this is the key. Of course, investor-owned utilities will try to charge as much as they can to maximize return on capital. The major question is "do we want to maximize return on capital in our utilities?". I would argue the answer is no since providing utilities is a public good and facilitates all other activities in the society, and forms natural monopolies.

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▲everdrive 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>Or do you want to redistribute the ownership of capital?

I think that's unfair. Do you disagree that companies who go public become myopic and attempt to extract more value until they've hollowed themselves out?

▲MobiusHorizons 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I would argue the effect is more pronounced in non-public companies that have private investors. Private equity especially does this, but VC backed startups also display extreme return on capital seeking behavior (albeit through growth rather than hollowing)

▲everdrive 3 hours ago | parent [-]

So the problem is mostly just outside meddling?

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▲samudrijan 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Disrupt natural monopolies. Have government provide a common good.