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▲ linuxftw 4 hours ago

We can just move on as a society from Disney. It didn't exist in 1900, no reason for it to exist now. It doesn't deserve a permanent place in western culture.

▲elif 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Only possible if you are fine missing an arbitrary 1/3 of live sports events.

▲nkrisc 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Believe it or not, some people live fulfilling lives without viewing any sporting events.

You can live without watching whatever the latest show is.

▲setr 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Believe it or not, some people live fulfilling lives without viewing any television.

You can live without watching whatever the latest show is.

▲nkrisc 9 minutes ago | parent [-]

Agreed! When they make you start paying for ads, it’s time to do something else. I haven’t had a subscription to any TV service in years because of the ads.

I don’t care about whatever shows I’m missing.

▲Carrok 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I am fine missing all live sports events. I think many other people are as well.

▲Forgeties79 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Those people are already not paying for sports. That is a massive market, worth bikkuons and billions annually. People are not going to simply stop watching professional sports. Especially because historically that has always been very expensive

▲dylan604 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've started going to local sports bars, I almost said pub, to watch events that I'm interested in seeing. After working from home for 8+ years now, it's also a nice bit of social interaction as well. I used to pay for Peacock specifically to watch Premiere League, but stopped since the team I follow kept getting bumped to their USA partner and not streaming on Peacock. Their 10-15 minute extended highlights are still available without a subscription, and they are good in a pinch for things I missed. I've now parlayed that sub over to Paramount+ to follow Champions League this season.

▲forshaper 2 hours ago | parent [-]

for some reason around here every bar has turned into a sports bar. Cocktail bar? Whisky bar? Brewery? Stripclub? They all have a bunch of screens and play sports now.

▲linuxftw an hour ago | parent [-]

The longer people stay, presumably the more they spend. Seems like a good match for a bar.

▲sailfast 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’m sure they will let you buy ESPN separately.

▲SoftTalker 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, so far that is possible.

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▲kjihygfcnkkbh 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That’s a bonus.

▲testing22321 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

My brother said that watching professional sport is watching other people live their dreams.

Don’t spend your time watching, spend your time making your own dreams come true.

▲ndriscoll 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There's probably something to be said for being inspired by people living their dreams. Like it was no doubt inspirational for many to watch Jordan living his dream of being a baseball player no matter what people expected of him.

▲mitchdoogle 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Isn't that even more true of watching movies and tv?

▲b33l an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

watching other people fuck their dreams up

▲AshleyGrant 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Honestly, even if your brother is right, who cares? I find it quite enjoyable to watch other folks play sports. So I'm going to continue to watch live sports.

Which sports I watch may change over time, as companies like Disney (ESPN) ruin one sport after another with too many ads and especially too much in-game gambling content, but I'll likely keep watching sports.

▲tayo42 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What's popular with kids and toddlers that's not Disney right now?

▲nostrademons 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Daniel Tiger, Elinor Wonders Why, Dinosaur Train, Work it out Wombats on PBS Kids.

Octonauts, Gabby's Dollhouse, Paw Patrol (and spinoffs), Puffin Rock, Peppa Pig, Lucas the Spider on Netflix.

Cocomelon, Helper Cars, Little Angel, Blippi, and many unboxing videos on YouTubeKids. Actually YouTube has a lot of full episodes from other sources as well - it's my go-to for Octonauts, Peppa Pig, and Paw Patrol when I set my kids up on my 11yo Macbook that's too old to run Netflix. I suspect many of the videos I think of as being from YouTube actually have their own sites elsewhere (isn't Cocomelon owned by ABC?).

Disney is a very small part of my kids' viewing habits. Pretty much just use it for the Mickie Mouse and Bluey franchises.

▲dylan604 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What's PBS showing now? I grew up on PBS and not Disney, and I think I turned out alright.

▲tayo42 2 hours ago | parent [-]

No lion king or toy story?

PBS looks like it has some ok stuff

▲dylan604 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I was an adult when Lion King and Toy Story came out. Also, as a kid, we didn't have the concept of put one show on and let it loop all day long. A show came on, we watched it. When the show was over, we did something else. Of course, that was back when kids were allowed to free roam as long as we were back before dark.

▲eigencoder 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Paw patrol is one

▲Vaushite 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Paw patrol is literally government propaganda, not the best example.

Explained here in a 1-hour video: https://youtu.be/rwhUpu9MfZ0

▲linuxftw 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Who cares? Why should kids watch things that are popular?

▲tayo42 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Popular is way to determine good and captivating

▲vel0city 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I kind of get your point, and to an extent I do agree. We absolutely drew the line at Paw Patrol and tried to hide it from our kids as much as possible along with a few other shows like it. I definitely think that was a good choice.

However, I did notice a number of times where my kids would have a harder time initially connecting with new social groups as there was less shared experience/context. They'd want to have some kind of make believe play where they'd assume a character from a show, but my kids had no context as to the expectations of the rest of the group and would struggle connecting. Its like the other kids were speaking a totally different language. Things would usually eventually work themselves out, but things could have been smoother and less stressful for my kids had they known the context.

Its like, back in the day, you'd be able to strike up a conversation with a someone and reference something from a show on one of the few TV stations, and there was a good chance the other person might have seen it and could get the reference. A shared experience, despite not being together at the time. Now days, good luck.