Fucking hell!

40+ years of laptop computing and sleep is still a problem !!!

chihuahua 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I question the wisdom of "Modern Standby." When I put my laptop in sleep mode, I want it to sleep. I don't want it to be using the network, checking for updates, fetching email, etc. It can do all of those things when I wake it up.

All of the hotbagging nonsense where a laptop cooks itself in a bag seems to be caused by Windows trying to be clever and deciding there's some really important stuff it needs to do, so it wakes up the machine, does a bunch of stuff, and doesn't get back to sleep.

Windows, you're not as clever as you think you are. None of this work is urgent. Just stay asleep until I wake you up. Seriously, just don't.

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bambax an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, that is so true. Sleep should mean sleep with both eyes closed! not nightwatch.

But Windows isn't the only one to blame. Macbooks do the same (they're less bad because they boot so fast, turning them off completely isn't that painful).

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toast0 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My macbook would do something similar. It didn't get as hot, but if I left the wrong program open (Outlook), the battery would be around 5% when I took it out of the bag. If I made sure to close everything, sleep was pretty efficient. That was many years ago, maybe things got better.

	▲	harrouet 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		There is a setting on Macs to allow the laptop to wake-up sporadically to update opened apps during sleep. You can totally disable that.

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evolighting 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"Modern Standby" is something that makes your laptop act like a phone. In my view, its only real purpose is to plausibly collect sensor data—just like a phone, or like all those "smart" speakers and "smart" TVs. The data itself has potential buyers and interested parties; it's a well-developed industry chain, and it's even subsidized by users paying for the devices themselves.

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nokeya 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Microsoft is to blame for this mess. Everything was ok before their “modern sleep” - C-states and stuff. Everything except memory sleeps. But no, they wanted to be like Apple. And, as always, they did it in most horrible way.

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lotsofpulp 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I have put my MacBook Air to sleep by closing the lid thousands of times for more than a decade now without a problem.