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▲ yorwba 3 hours ago

> if any pair of countries have conflicting rules then you simply can't expose your service to both

Yes. This is also how physical products work. The internet makes it easy and the default to offer a service worldwide, hence also making it easy to get in conflict with the law worldwide. You have to pick and choose which laws to break, which laws to comply with by minimizing exposure, and which laws to comply with by making a tailor-made version for a specific market.

▲iamnothere 3 hours ago | parent [-]

You say this confidently, but this is merely one theory about how things should work.

If I make a product in my country, where it’s legal, and a buyer purchases it from me and then brings it to you overseas where it’s illegal, and someone in your county tries to sue me for it, they are typically going to have a hard time. (Unless your country is powerful enough to violate the sovereignty of my nation.)

In most cases, you accessing my website is more like this scenario. Intermediaries (ISPs) brought you the product. I simply offered it to anyone who came to my “store” (server). I admit that this dynamic changes if you directly pay me for something.

Your framework implies that every social website needs to make a decision on whether or not users are allowed to insult the Thai monarch[0], and then must block access to Thais if they decide it’s allowed. In reality nobody does this, although they may choose not to put a server in Thailand if they are worried about it.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A8se-majest%C3%A9_in_Thai...

▲logifail an hour ago | parent [-]

See also the UK's Online Safety Act and the UK's regulator Ofcom, which stated:

'Ofcom told the BBC: "We are aware of this lawsuit. Under the Online Safety Act, any service that has links with the UK now has duties to protect UK users, no matter where in the world it is based."

A service doesn't have to be based in the UK to be subject to the act, and therefore face action from Ofcom.'

The US-based lawyers for the services in question take a very different view....

▲iamnothere 16 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

For those not aware, note that Ofcom have effectively conceded defeat on this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50167028

▲wolvoleo 16 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> A service doesn't have to be based in the UK to be subject to the act, and therefore face action from Ofcom.'

Hm yeah but "action from Ofcom" doesn't really mean very much to a party half a world away.