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▲ QuantumNoodle 4 hours ago

Animals are all cool with all the different pollution that data centers brings? Vibrations, noise, as well as climate?

▲dpe82 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Some perspective is important, I think.

This is unpopular in the current climate of hysteria, but it's worth reminding ourselves: data centers are probably one of the least polluting industrial sites imaginable. That's not to say it's nothing, but contrast it with, say, a refinery. Or mineral processing. Or basically any other type of industrial activity on which modern civilization relies.

They hum. That's about it.

▲233mhz 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The problem with your reasoning is that nothing ever matters, because you can always divide things in smaller and smaller chunks and in the end "it's really not that bad it's only 0.x percent of emissions/pollution/etc"

▲dpe82 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I agree; but that's also not a very useful observation. Modern society depends on industry of all types, and national independence depends on at least some of it being local. We can try to make it cleaner, and to some degree we can choose which types to implement. But we do not have the option to just wish it all away.

It would be very nice if we could have our cake and eat it too.

▲luqtas 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> They hum. That's about it.

lol. just by having a light pole there you start disturbing the insectoid life

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▲QuantumNoodle 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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▲curt15 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Would you mind a data center sprouting up in your backyard? Just ask residents near Elon's new gas turbine powered GPU datacenters how lovely they find the hum.

Framing the choice as a dichotomy between data centers and other industrial plants misses the obvious third option: nothing at all, preserve the status quo.

▲embedding-shape 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No, and it also won't matter what they feel about it, when Google and the contractor just ignores what's marked as protected and clears it anyway:

> Halmeenpää said satellite imagery shows that areas that should have been protected have already been leveled. Beyond the loss of so much forest, the outcome could be dire for wildlife preservation.

▲dingdingdang 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Well, at that point fine them properly and use the proceeds to establish new wildlife sanctuary.

Unless of course the judicial system has been corrupted but that's surely a bit of a stretch no?

▲nemomarx 4 hours ago | parent [-]

It would be good to use funds that way but it's not gonna get the protected species back. We need some teeth to actually stop these things from happening

▲dgellow 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Given the AI boosters don’t care much about humans I don’t think they consider other forms of organic life too important