| ▲ | outworlder 6 hours ago |
| Yeap. Most likely Muse, Grok Bot and things like that. Honestly, US banks and credit unions should get their heads out of their asses and learn from it. There's a _reason_ people connect banks to YNAB, Monarch Money and stuff like that, and a reason why they might want an AI agent. They need the info. They may also need to make automated transactions, something companies have access to, but the ordinary person does not. My landlord wants Zelle. I cannot schedule payments on my credit union. It's not like I can update the app since it lives inside their systems. So I have to login monthly. I debated getting another bank account and giving it to Muse just for that purpose. Banks in the US are a couple of decades behind, say, Brazilian banks. Instant transfers to another bank were a thing since the early 2000s. And for years now you can do it from anyone to anyone, no third party app required. To the dismay of Visa and Mastercard. |
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| ▲ | tredre3 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > I debated getting another bank account and giving it to Muse just for that purpose. The point of getting the second bank account is to reduce the blast radius if the agent goes haywire, I suppose? But then you'll have to manually top up that account every now and then, how does it solve your initial problem? |
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| ▲ | eszed 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Some banks can schedule transfers, but not payments. Or, not payments by specific routes. My credit union will cut a paper check and mail it to your bank (yes, that's seriously what they actually do), but can't schedule Zelle, or (maybe they can do it now, but they couldn't a few years ago) an electronic transfer. Like someone else up-thread, my experience moving back to the US from Europe, ~15 years ago, was like stepping back to the financial dark ages. It's a bit better now (Zelle, Plaid, Mint / Monarch - though I'm well-aware of the privacy downsides of those third-party platforms), but the industry isn't close to catching up with the fifteen-year-old state of the art, let alone, say, Indian or Brazilian micro-transaction networks. | | |
| ▲ | SoftTalker 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | My credit union is the same. You can set up automatic/periodic transfers from one account to another at the same credit union, but to "transfer" money to an account at another bank you use the "bill pay" system which ends up as a check (possibly an ECH or maybe an actual paper check, depending on which bank is receiving the funds). | | |
| ▲ | sroussey 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yes, I pay my HOA fees via bill pay so they write a check and send it next door via the mail. This is Wells Fargo. Also, they remove the money when they mail the check… not when it gets cashed. | | |
| ▲ | SoftTalker an hour ago | parent [-] | | Mine was that way, but they changed so that it's like a regular check and funds are only withdrawn when the check is cashed. I suppose there might have been some difficulty explaining what they were doing with all the money for the checks that were never presented for payment. |
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| ▲ | kenhwang 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Most banks let you schedule recurring transfers. | | |
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| ▲ | jmtulloss 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| This is why I moved to Mercury. It’s good tech. |
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| ▲ | stickfigure 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | I used Mercury for a startup a few years ago, they were great. Looks like they have personal banking now, but it's $20/mo unless you also have a business account. |
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