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| ▲ | triceratops 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Today "racism" is used as a synonym for "bigotry". Would you agree it was bigotry? Or do you only have a problem with people using words wrong, and not bigotry itself? | | |
| ▲ | alt227 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Whynot use the correct word for it, which is prejudice? Racism is prejudice against a race. You can be prejudiced to any group of people, doesnt mean that you are biggoted. | | |
| ▲ | triceratops 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Whynot use the correct word for it, which is prejudice? Again you seem more concerned with grammar than, y'know, condemning racism, prejudice, or bigotry. They're all equally bad and closely related concepts. "A rose by another name" and so on. Your own comment has 3 typos and several grammatical errors ("prejudiced to" is wrong, for example). Irony. Finally, modern usages of "racism" encapsulate all of these meanings. Languages change over time. > You can be prejudiced to any group of people, doesnt mean that you are biggoted Yes, that's literally what it means. | | |
| ▲ | dugidugout 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | They are not being pedantic here, they are establishing a meaningful difference in words to help distinguish a shared phenomena. I think the original comment was unnecessary and certainly bigoted, but I would need more to say racism. The "grammar" guy clarified twice the semantic difference they personally observed (note they did not labor on syntax like you wish to suggest). All that said, I make this comment as I believe the other commenter's worry is on display im this comment here... > Again you seem more concerned with grammar than, y'know, condemning racism, prejudice, or bigotry. They're all equally bad and closely related concepts These are _not_ all equally bad. Prejudice is foundational to understanding, there is no escape from this. In this understanding, we should treat particular postures of prejudice more serious than collapsing any "bad prejudice" under the same label. | | |
| ▲ | triceratops 40 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I didn't flag your reply https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50198992 and I thought you made some good points. > I have these arguments with people I love who are right in spirit and still dig in the moment the word “racism” lands, because to them it names a thing they’re sure they aren’t Like I said, it's because of how emotionally charged the word is. People think if they label unfairly discriminatory or prejudiced behavior as something other than racism, it's somehow not as bad as racist behavior. They are wrong. | |
| ▲ | triceratops 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > I think the original comment was unnecessary and certainly bigoted, but I would need more to say racism Do you think racism is worse than bigotry? Why? I understand that the first word has a more emotional charge in our times. But as far as "bad things to do" go they're equal in gravity. Racism is just a subset of bigotry. > These are _not_ all equally bad Why not? > Prejudice is foundational to understanding That's one definition of the word - "judging without knowing the facts". But there's another definition - "an irrational hostile attitude, fear, or hatred towards a particular group, race, or religion" - which was the one we are operating with in this thread. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prejudice#English | | |
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| ▲ | zoobab 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You have little and big endians: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endianness I had a bunch of openwrt routers based on the ADM5120 SoC, some of them were of different endianness, totally wth: https://linux-mips.org/wiki/Adm5120 | |
| ▲ | sspiff 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | My mistake. English is not my first language. In my native language, the word racism is used for discrimination or prejudice against anything foreign (nation, race, language, ...). But either way, I find the reduction of the argument to the semantics of the word racism to be deflection. Wouldn't you agree the original comment was made in poor taste? Why did it need to include a reference to Indian and imply that all things Indian made are cheap or low quality? We applied this kind of mindset to the Japanese in the 60s and 70s, and look where that got us. I witness it happening again in the 00s and 10s applied to Korean electronics (LG and Samsung mostly) while we were content with minor improvements over the status quo and innovating far too slowly. Yes, this incident has an almost farcical amount of stupid attached to it, but the fact that it happened to an Indian company is in my eyes only coincidental. There are plenty of Silicon Valley startups and tech companies that are equally cavalier about aspects of security and apply the mentality of "we'll fix it in post" to anything but shipping features. | | |
| ▲ | freetonik 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | >In my native language, the word racism is used for discrimination or prejudice against anything foreign (nation, race, language, ...). Curious which language is that, and if "racism" is an accurate translation to English. What you describe sounds more like xenophobia. | | |
| ▲ | sspiff 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Dutch. The word is "racisme", and the entry for it in our dictionary[0] states: > Racism is a form of discrimination in which a person is judged on the basis of his or her ethnic origin, skin color, nationality or religion. It is a form of prejudice and inequality that prevents people from gaining equal opportunities. While I'm happy to admit that perhaps my use of the word in English is incorrect and its meaning there is more narrow, in Dutch it covers nationality or religion as well. Islamophobia is considered racist ("racistisch") in Dutch, for example. [0]: https://www.nationaalwoordenboek.nl/woord/racisme.html |
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| ▲ | zoobab 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | "There are plenty of Silicon Valley startups and tech companies that are equally cavalier about aspects of security and apply the mentality of "we'll fix it in post" to anything but shipping features." Most companies handle security very badly. |
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