CA Forum, Apple, Google and Mozilla are to be blamed for just giving license to random no security background far away company.

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traceroute66 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, its all very well someone here shouting about "the absolutely brutal question battery the Chrome team publicly submitted to eMudhra".

But in all honesty there are serious questions to be asked about:

a) The initial approval process for ANY CA

b) The ongoing monitoring process for ANY CA

The fact this CA was based in India ultimately has nothing to do with it if we are being completely honest here.

Clearly there is a fundamental problem with the overarching approval and monitoring process which means it could have happened anywhere. This time it just happened to be India.

Secondly, in direct reference to the "far away company" comment India does have quite strict controls on both certain technical things (speaking generally here, not specifically in relation to certs ... e.g. use of sat phones). And in general it is quite difficult (read: almost impossible) to turn up in India and do business as an external company. So there is probably a genuine need for an Indian company CA since not every body can/wants to use Let's Encrypt or whatever.

	▲	xbar 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		CA approvals are bad. From 2000 to 2015, I ran an org where we allow-listed a modest subset of the the CAs that were approved by Google, Microsoft, and Mozilla. There were too many incidents and bad actors. Microsoft, in particular, had strong transparency around CA approval processes that were reasonable. It was weird.

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cromka 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Far away company

Far away from the default country?

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wannabe44 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The charitable interpretation is a company whose operations they have no idea about due to distance.

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eudamoniac 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Far away from the nearest technologically competent country where this would not happen

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tredre3 4 hours ago | parent [-]

That country you describe doesn't exist.

	▲	eudamoniac an hour ago \| parent [-]
		The only time anything like this has ever happened was in Malaysia and now India, so...

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j16sdiz 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

like most governance body, they check independent audit reports, not the actual operation.

This is a sample on what it looks like during covid lockdown : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1728790

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geodel 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not to give into conspiracy theories but this company might be ideologically even if not materially aligned to current regime in India. With right kind of nudge any kind business contract is possible without any competency.

	▲	wannabe44 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		You seem to have an axe against current Indian regime which is not even outside the overton window. I suggest to not get your information from liberal-arts educated islamophile journalists who are struggling to pay off their loans.

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zerozerotwo 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As a reminder Mozilla was warned not to add the Chinese government as a ca they pushed back claiming lack of evidence and only removed them as a ca once cnnic got caught issuing certs for google domains (by accident )

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DetroitThrow 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes, not sure what the timeline was where trust was given to this company. Just horrible for the entire secure Internet. They've yet to answer many of the basic questions raised throughout this process too.