Criticisms of the format, "the same people", are virtually always irrational/tribalistic, and based on the "invented enemy" internet trope that happens when interpreting groups of people as being one person. I'd like to leave such common tropes outside of HN.

It’s the goomba fallacy: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Goomba_fallacy

In other circumstances, I'd be the first to agree, but you'll find people arguing for both sides in the same comment in this very comment section.