That must be hard to say with a straight face. Over the last 4-6 months I think very few corporate developers have handwritten any code at all and the “intelligence” growth from one model to the next is very tangible.

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IKnowMazin an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Odd. I barely perceive the growth, and I use them a ton at work. Not saying the advancements aren’t there, I just wouldn’t describe every model release as having tangible growth.

Also the handwritten code doesn’t remove the work. If anything, it makes the thinking more difficult (for me) because instead of thinking during the coding, I have to before and after (in iterations).

For big projects I actually go back to tradcoding some to make sure I understand the system, since I’m the one responsible.

	▲	devin 15 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Same. People are drunk on "agentic" and reality is coming for them. It's also coming for the holdouts who say it has no effect. Like a lot of tech before it I think the overriding theme is misapplication during a hype cycle.
	▲	lifeisloving 22 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I actually dont let llms code anything non trivial, I will have it help with the planning a bit usually, but I write most of the code, and wow turns out my brain doesnt rot in the process and I actually understand whats going on. Im convinced the people letting llms do their jobs are going to get replaced, not by agents but people who use them more reasonably.

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cautiouscat 17 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

That’s true. But that’s a really small slice of the pie they’ve cut for themselves in hype and valuation.