Qwen3-Coder is from August 2025. That is ancient. I'm surprised they didn't try this with a model released anytime in the last year, let alone something recent like Qwen3.8.

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jebarker 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Just because AI development moves fast and breaks things continually it doesn’t mean there’s no value in studying older models. Unless you think we understand all the behaviors of those older models.

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tedivm 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I think if you're going to claim that Chinese AI is making things less secure for people out of China you need to back that up with models that are actually in use. Is this a real problem today, or a problem with a specific model and it's training? It's pretty freaking relevant if you ask me.

	▲	jebarker 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		You are taking too narrow of a view. I agree that if you want to say something about the behavior of models in use today then you need to use those models. But that’s not the only reason to study questions like this.
	▲	NewJazz 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I agree, they should have studied a range of open weight models, including non-Chinese models.

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irthomasthomas 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They probably went through testing every Chinese model until they found something to flag.

	▲	tedivm an hour ago \| parent [-]
		That's what I expect as well, there's really no other reason to use a model that is so far out of date.