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▲ bluehatbrit 6 hours ago

Not all banks have physical locations, not everyone has the ability to get to the ones which do.

You can't walk back from the existing expectation and ease of use we have today. It's just not going to happen, people will opt for the current path because it's easy and seems good enough to them.

Most normal people don't even know this whole thing is going on. They don't know the difference between http and https other than "it's secure".

If we want to improve on this, it has to come with the current level of ease of use at a minimum.

▲monsieurbanana 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> If we want to improve on this, it has to come with the current level of ease of use at a minimum.

OR it has to be a situation catastrophic enough. I don't think this one is, but it's hard to be optimistic for the future

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▲__MatrixMan__ 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Presumably you had some reason to trust the bank in the first place. Maybe a recommendation from somebody you know? Get the key from them.

The current level of ease is not being achieved securely. If it's not possible to do so, we should walk it back.

▲chrisjj 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> If we want to improve on this, it has to come with the current level of ease of use at a minimum.

We need to recognise that is impossible. Making getting into a bank account easier for the owner does so for everyone else too. And also makes it easier for the bank to ditch the secure fallback - a building.

And ask why vendor-indepedent trust shops aren't sprouting in every locale. Answer: same security problems.

We are well and truly doomed to living in a scammers' paradise.

▲venzaspa 3 hours ago | parent [-]

But my bank has no physical buildings whatsoever?

And also, how is my bank supposed to safely generate and distribute a key that we can exchange securely if an organisations who's primary purpose to generate these keys couldn't even manage to do so.

I have plenty of other services I use too. Suddenly my phone company, doctors, supermarket has to create and distribute keys for me to go around collecting so that I can securely talk to them and we have to do this in a way that stops anyone from swapping those keys out before they get to me.

I mean the current system isn't perfect, but it's a Utopia compared to that.

▲chrisjj 39 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yes. As I said, we're doomed.