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▲ paulryanrogers 6 hours ago

> They show up to random fender benders.

EVs can cause pretty bad fires from benign looking accidents. Perhaps this is for the best? Better safe than sorry as they say.

Or perhaps we should dial back on how many firefighters we keep employed at all times.

▲petcat 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In my town every firefighter is also an EMT and every fire truck has an AED and ventilation bag. And the local firehouse is invariably closer to basically everything than the ALS ambulance is.

So over the last several decades, "firefighter" has really just become emergency responder, where "emergency" can be a lot of things that happen in society pretty often.

▲rcxdude 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Firefighting is a a task with a pretty intrinsically bursty demand. You're employing them for the very peak of that demand and otherwise you want them working on relatively low priority things that can be dropped in an emergency.

▲johannes1234321 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Or perhaps we should dial back on how many firefighters we keep employed at all times.

When there is a fire you still need enough at location in time.

The fact that there are enough in short distance with good equipment is one of the things which causes the low number of big fires: once the mandatory detector goes of for a little fire they are on site before it becomes big.

▲RobotToaster 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Or perhaps we should dial back on how many firefighters we keep employed at all times.

The problem is you need a good number when there is a serious fire, even if it doesn't happen very often.

▲dankent 5 hours ago | parent [-]

In the UK, we have quite a few 'on call' firefighters (about a third of the total) who are fully trained and are paid but are not full time. They typically work another job but are available during certain hours if required. I'm not sure if similar systems exist elsewhere.

▲cogogo 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A huge portion of the US is covered by purely volunteer fire departments. Communities pay for equipment and training and that is it. Response times are slow but it is really the only viable option in rural areas.

▲ghaff 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Not always slow. I had a kitchen fire at 4am from a microwave spontaneously combusting. Had the local deputy fire chief and local fire truck there within 15 minutes plus trucks from two other local towns.

▲petcat 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

At the federal level, FEMA and USDA offer extensive grants and low interest loans to fund fire districts in rural communities with a small tax base. I think basically every state offers similar funding assistance on top of that.

▲anttisalmela 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Looks like 80% of firefighters (or rescue personnel according to modern naming) in Finland are members of volunteer fire brigades or so-called contract fire brigades and they respond to nearly half of the total emergencies but over 90% of emergencies outside densely populated areas.

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