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▲ llljk 5 hours ago

The ceo who infamously said this

    Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard
    Zuck: Just ask.
    Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS
    [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?
    Zuck: People just submitted it.
    Zuck: I don't know why.
    Zuck: They "trust me"
    Zuck: Dumb fucks.
and suspended the instagram account of protest organizer during its peak? https://www.reuters.com/technology/meta-apologizes-after-sus...

anyone surprised?

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▲nomilk 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

To be fair, this is every tech company, ever, with extremely rare exceptions.

▲educar 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I suspect you are projecting. This is not every tech company, not even remotely close. Maybe the big Silicon Valley companies have misled you into thinking that other software companies don't exist.

▲nomilk an hour ago | parent [-]

How many companies can you name whose staff certainly cannot access your data?

I thought I could name one (GitHub), but after checking, they can (e.g. if requested by law enforcement etc).

Therefore, the total I can name is 0.

▲nolok 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

At least the last three I worked or consulted at, though I'm in Europe.

It really goes a long way when the law stop saying "it's not nice if" and starts saying "if you can even if you don't then you're guilty".

▲educar 34 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I didn't think that your comment was about data access. I thought your comment was about the callous remarks by zuck. Most of the companies I work with treat customer data with extreme care and sensitivity and don't throw it around like silicon valley ad tech does.

▲latexr 13 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There is a gulf of difference between accessing your data to comply with the law and accessing your data (and giving it away to friends!) for no reason, while being so nefarious about it that you call people “dumb fucks” and mock them for even believing you’d treat the data properly and then spend years proving that you’re trustworthy, while at the same time showing complete understanding of the harm you’re causing by being yourself so private that you buy the houses next to yours and keep them empty.

▲customguy 32 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

How many can you name with something like 'They "trust me" Dumb fucks.'?

The question was not "could the do all shitty things if they were scummy assholes", but "are they all scummy assholes".

▲nomilk 17 minutes ago | parent [-]

Totally fair to be annoyed/outraged by this. What I argue is that ~every company has that attitude (Zuck just said the quiet part out loud). Like, we're only kidding ourselves if we think most companies' employees can't peek at our data on whim, or that most companies don't share it with third parties, and probably also (possibly secretly) with government.

▲alex1138 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

To be "fair", Zuckerberg is a mendacious little prick with a history

Did the Google guys ever get caught saying that? Or using their power over the company to unsend messages, oh I guess you can't do that with email, but with Messenger you can...

▲bryanrasmussen 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

generally the guy with this attitude and willingness to just share with some buddy when asked for it is a mid term hire.

▲zaptheimpaler 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's not, there are levels of scumbaggery and Meta is one of the absolute worst. Rigging elections all over the world, privacy violations everywhere, actively scheming to get kids addicted to slop media, privacy destroying recording glasses, the list goes on.

▲close04 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> anyone surprised?

A lot of people actually, even techies. I commented something similar on a different tech website (Ars Technica) highlighting the trustworthiness of the company behind the tool, and that by now people should not be surprised the face eating leopard eats faces. I was met with a lot of implicit defense of Meta and redirecting the attention to "whatabout" Anthropic, OpenAI, etc. (much like sibling reply here makes it an "every tech company" problem). The general agreement in that forum was that the company is not the problem, it's just what AI tooling does.

So either the internet is full of shills, or people are genuinely surprised because they chose ignorance for decades. Or maybe both can be true.