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▲ cowsandmilk a day ago

> Universities should be investing in that kind of infrastructure, and it's shameful that they're not already experts.

Do you also expect universities to have an archived version of every article and book their professors cite?

▲busssard 17 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The authors usually has a copy of a cited article in their reference systems. at least as pdf. So yes i dont see why they shouldn't also keep a pdf copy of cited websites with metadata attached

this could then be stored on a university server for future reference.

▲yangm97 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is not a honest comparison. Books are mass produced and don’t rely solely on their authors paying hosting bills and willingness to not change stuff to keep existing.

Relying entirely on a single nonprofit (archive.org) to provide a honest snapshot of every cited link, at the time of citation, sounds much more unreasonable.

▲Alpha3031 a day ago | parent [-]

A lot of national libraries also undertake web archiving within their scope (e.g. under their national TLD) and I've sometimes found that they have items not covered by Wayback, but it's not as easy to request additions to it. The risk of having a single point of failure is certainly real, and it would certainly be nice for a coalition of libraries to maybe fund a second alternative and mandate the use of both, or something like that.

▲GauntletWizard a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes. 100% yes. Obviously and clearly, yes. Universities have huge libraries and archives. It used to be a point of pride how big their libraries and archives were. University libraries bound and collated their periodicals. They converted them to microfiche to save space, but the integrity was paramount.

Yes. Libraries should be able to back-reference every citation that is included in every paper that they publish, and so should the journals. That is paramount to the scientific method. Anything that you have not verified yourself should have a clear citation that you're able to prove.