Sure, but Chetty et al were measuring based on the top-1% of income, the private elementary schools are acting like filters based on income. Yes, they can buy more access to things that will weigh heavily on an admissions acceptance, but that's a filter by parental income which is well known...

I suppose the argument is that a hard working kid from a lower income family can test into a private elementary school on a scholarship?

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drivebyhooting a day ago | parent [-]

No. Spar this with AI. The 2X multiplier is AFTER controlling income.

What you’re saying is just a comfortable lie to make people feel better about public schooling.

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sarchertech a day ago | parent | next [-]

It didn’t control for wealth though just income. It also didn’t control for parental education or familiarity with elite colleges. It didn’t control for parental expectations (seems likely that a parent who spends money on private school will be more likely to expect their child to attend an elite college).

It didn’t control for the value parents put on education in general.

It didn’t control for children’s expectations (seems likely that a high school student who wants to attend an elite college will be more likely to push to attend private school).

It didn’t control for extracurricular activities (it seems likely that private school parents will be more likely to encourage their kids to participate in extracurriculars that look good on an elite college application).

It did control for SAT scores through, so the one thing this study is definitely not doing is examining the effectiveness of public vs private schools at effectively educating children.

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drivebyhooting a day ago | parent [-]

Look, I’m not going to rebut each of your points one by one. Ask AI to steelman both sides and learn the facts for yourself. Then you can decide.

But that last point about SAT is just too much for me. Just because the study controlled for SAT score doesn’t mean private education does not impact SAT score. In fact there is a correlation. And even causation. You can dig into the data yourself.

	▲	clove 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Behold the new "Google it."
	▲	sarchertech 14 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		> It did control for SAT scores through, so the one thing this study is definitely not doing is examining the effectiveness of public vs private schools at effectively educating children Run that statement through AI and ask it if it says that private education can’t impact SAT score. > Look, I’m not going to rebut each of your points one by one. Ask AI Why are you even here? I think you’d be happier just going back and forth with AI all day.
	▲	kakacik 17 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Man, you just keep repeating about AI, do you actually have your own opinions? I have more fruitful conversations with angry teenagers than this empty broken record track

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what a day ago | parent | prev [-]

>spar this with AI

Lmfao. Okay, buddy.