Remix.run Logo
▲ quotemstr 2 hours ago

What stops our adding a record that requires DANE and a conventional CA? (Preload it like HSTS, if you'd like, to prevent US IC downgrade attacks if people stupidly configure DNSSEC to fail open.)

This way, fuckups like this CA can't hurt me because they couldn't break DANE and IC couldn't hurt me (more than they can already) because WebPKI would have to approve too.

I don't think the CA death penalty addresses the problem. Just as in the physical world, the death penalty isn't a perfect deterrent.

▲tptacek an hour ago | parent [-]

The fact that DANE doesn't work on all network paths and it's hard to predict which ones will fail. You have a preference not shared by ordinary computer users, that broken network paths should be loudly broken and not best-effort.

If you care this much about your root set, consider having Claude roll you a Chromium or Firefox with a user-controllable set of roots that you ruthlessly prune and manage. Unlike DANE, which simply isn't going to happen for a whole variety of reasons, your personal root program (I gift that term to you if you want the coinage) actually could help people with your preferences.