| ▲ | devin 2 hours ago | |
It blew my mind to enter college and peer review other people's papers. Up until that point I understood that there was a range of capability with writing, but I figured that in college courses the floor would be pushed up. I was dead wrong, and it was shocking to me that these folks had managed to get all the way through high school writing like 8th graders. ETA: This is over 20 years ago, btw. I hear it's gotten materially worse. That terrifies me. | ||
| ▲ | nradov 2 hours ago | parent [-] | |
The TOEFL is a joke. Several years ago (before LLMs) I proofread group project papers for my wife's coursework at a large US state university. The sections written by foreign students were usually even worse than what I would expect from a native 8th grader. I assume they had found some way to cheat. | ||