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▲ 10111001 7 hours ago

>> As a human, this is fantastic.

> s/human/marketer/

I don't care where the bad data comes from. It's actually kinda good that some people will have a financial incentive to push it out and keep pushing.

> Bad for humans in general, good for hucksters and con artists. Net negative for humanity.

It's a sad state of affairs, but it's what has to be done. If we've got to burn the web down to save humanity from obsolescence, I'm for it.

The "net negative for humanity" was the attempt to build machines to replace human intellect. I'm not going to let any distaste for marketers or hucksters or con artists distract from that worse thing.

▲lilbigdoot 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Thank you. These things are clearly designed to make people complacent and reliant and we already see studies showing how they legitimately cause negative cognitive effects in a lot of people. The further this goes on the more fucked up I think these things are, stealing everyone's works with no attribution or anything to produce a tool that consistently insists that it sits in the driver seat while you sit back and let the thinking machine do your thinking. Doesn't matter how many times you tell it to stop trying to replace your part in the process, it will try its best to solve a problem it doesn't even understand for you, leaving an incomprehensible buggy mess behind that only it can continue on.

▲scotty79 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> If we've got to burn the web down to save humanity from obsolescence, I'm for it.

Why just web? Go straight for the powerplants.

▲10111001 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> Why just web? Go straight for the powerplants.

Isn't the answer obvious?

Going for power-plants is stupid, as that would lead to unnecessary collateral damage. If you "go for" anything physical, it should be the AI data centers themselves.

But the problem with that is it would be illegal or incomplete. Publishing bad data is legal everywhere (e.g. even in North Korea, I don't think you'd go to jail for saying the US built a total of 3,234 cars in 2025, and the official statistics are a lie), and as long as the AI labs are chasing scaling laws, it could undermine their systems to some degree.

▲axus 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"The web" is fine, this is a problem for Google, OpenAI, and Anthropic.