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▲ graemep 8 hours ago

> Constant tinkering around with config files and googling how to fix problems.

i realised long ago this is usually a self-inflicted problem. Some of us (myself included) cannot resist tinkering with something that works reasonably well. When we use Windows its hard to tinker so we leave well along. Linux lets you tinker so we keep trying to reach perfection, and that breaks stuff.

▲mft_ 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Disagree. Whether it’s Raspbian on a Pi, or Fedora or Mint on a modern laptop, issues still occur, and any minor issue immediately launches you into the world of the terminal, Google, StackOverflow, and Ubuntu forums.

Claude has definitely helped to reduce this negative!

▲yoyohello13 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The difference is on Windows when I have an issue it’s usually just straight up not fixable.

▲ibobev 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS, and things keep breaking after updates. When the video drivers break, YouTube starts dropping frames even at 1080p. When the audio drivers break, my headphones or microphone stop working. These kinds of issues were a nightmare before the LLM era. Now things are far easier.

▲newsoftheday 7 hours ago | parent [-]

On Ubuntu since 2006, Kubuntu the past several years on Dell, HP and Lenovo machines (multiple, home and work) and have not experienced what you're describing, odd. Wife too, complete non-techie, Ubuntu on 2 machines so far, no issues.

▲graemep 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I think its very dependent on hardware.

The worst my family have had was an MS surface running a rolling release distro because it was the only way to get the touchscreen working which failed at a bad time. Now switched to a more stable distro and looks OK.

On the other hand most laptops and all desktops have been trouble free. Even running a rolling release distro (Manjaro) has been fine on a laptop that was designed for Linux (and sold with Linux preinstalled).

▲graemep 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Claude is useful, but my experience when I have fewer issues than Windows users seem to. I think Raspbian and Fedora are unfair comparisons, and people using Ubuntu, Mint etc. seem to have more problems than Windows users.

▲wolvoleo 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Some of us (myself included) cannot resist tinkering with something that works reasonably well. When we use Windows its hard to tinker so we leave well along. Linux lets you tinker so we keep trying to reach perfection, and that breaks stuff.

I think that tinkering serves a purpose. If you don't fully understand your tooling, you won't be able to fix it when something breaks. Tinkering teaches you that.

Also, you might miss out on improved workflow by leaving things alone.

The whole reason I use FOSS is that I don't some big tech architect to decide for me how my computer should work.

▲0x457 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

IMO most of linux issues come from "my distro ancient package registry does not have package X, let me google magic commands I need to run to installed version I need"

If I have issue with nixos, its 99 out of 100 times going to be package I pulled either from nixpkgs-unstable or 3d party flake.

NixOS make it less of a problem because I can alwasy switch to previous generation and build all of my hosts before switching any of them.

Some distros are worse then others though. Ubuntu (used to?) for some reasons loved switching nvidia drivers OSS version that does not work every update or break keyboard layout switcher. I never had such issues with NixOS, but with NixOS I have "kernel updated, reboot required" issue that I had setup alert for[1].

[1]: Only issue on a host that has nvidia card because nvidia being nvidia.

▲onefiftymike 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

On windows I assume I cannot bend the OS to my will. On Linux I know I should be able to. The biggest issue is I am often so busy asking if I can do it that I don't stop to ask if I should do it. So I end up with weird configurations and random packages installed to tweak stupid stuff.

Some of it is real pain points, and those are annoying that they aren't baked into the distro from the beginning.

▲M95D 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I only do tinkering once. After that, it usually stays that way for as long as the option/setting exists and doesn't break.

For example, in 1996 I tweaked the buttons on Total Commander's main button bar (was called Windows Commander back then). I still use that same button bar today, 30 years later. Only some icons had to be replaced. I try to do the same in Linux, but...

There are some programs where this just doesn't work. Firefox for example has a bad habit of deprecating settings and adding new ones (with wrong defaults, because... money probably). It needs tinkering all the time.

▲sigbottle 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

But I love tinkering!

▲graemep 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, but I think, especially if its a machine you rely on, you have to exercise a bit of self control.

I tinker with one ARM based tablet, which never works quite right but because its a secondary device with limited use anyway its not a problem. My work laptop does not get messed around with unless necessary.

▲ferroman 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

curiosity is good