I don’t understand why users even went to iOS-based devices as a daily driver for more serious computing. They need to be seen as appliances.

You wouldn’t use a Web TV and then get frustrated when you lose your magnum opus that you’d been working on the last three years.

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bluGill 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The form factor is useful for a lot of application. My laptop/desktop is more powerful, but they are limited to places where I'm sitting down. There are a lot of jobs that are better done walking around. Trying to fix a machine - you want the computer with you. Trying to do a presentation - your presentation is better if you are not standing still.

What is serious computing? There are some things where I expect to have to be at my desk for hours to get them done and then a phone/tablet is worse. However there are also a lot of things better done when not at a desk and a laptop/desktop is worse.

	▲	xattt 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		“Serious” computing would be using several applications that chain together to create an end product. Case in point: authoring academic papers. If you have a local or self-hosted Zotero collection, you will want to cite them. Any desktop platform allows you to use [word processor of choice] and Zotero together fairly seamlessly. This is a big kludge on iPadOS where you keep switching back and forth between Pages/Word and Zotero to paste in a citation key, which then makes it untenable long-term because the attention break is too great.
	▲	xp84 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		For simple tasks (someone pointed out a rental car agent doing the walk around photo taking and signature capturing) an iPad is great - its light weight is the main advantage. But if I was doing a walking-around task that was more complex, a convertible laptop that folds around (HP x360 for example) and runs a real OS is just more powerful. There’s nothing an iPad can do (besides being light) that wouldn’t be done better by such a device. (Assume here that Apple made an x360-shaped Mac, this argument isn’t about Windows vs Mac).

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neya 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Because you slapped a "Pro" label in your marketing and sold it as a capable device to begin with, going on over about how powerful it is. That is directly targeted towards a professional audience.

	▲	xp84 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I mean, yes, they did position it for this. But it’s surprising that anyone has taken them seriously, and to me it’s surprising that anyone has signed up for all the homework it takes to find and perform the workarounds to every one of its dozens of self-imposed limitations in order to force it to work. Like, even as simple as positioning windows on the screen. On a Mac, you don’t need to ask how, you just drag and size them where you want. On an iPad, even with Magic Keyboard and trackpad, same basic input devices, it requires a bunch of learning to vaguely approximate what every Mac user has been doing for 42 years. And until like 1 year ago, there weren’t even window-like things, only weird alternative paradigms to learn and accept.