| ▲ | kennywinker 7 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||
The idea of dropping >half a million dollars in gpu credits to re-train a model to confirm no tampering is laughable at this point. Until training costs fall, that’s not really a solution. Also, is training even deterministic? Does the same code with the same training data always result in the same model? I’m all for open source models (not just open weight) but I feel like a way to scan the model weights for backdoors is going to be an easier problem to solve than obtaining training data. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | fwipsy 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
> a way to scan the model weights for backdoors The AI safety folks have been working on a way to verify model behavior more generally. The term I've heard is "mechanistic interpretability" and it's actually really hard, though there's been some progress. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | simoncion 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
> The idea of dropping >half a million dollars in gpu credits to re-train a model to confirm no tampering is laughable at this point. Why? This seems to me like one of those national security concerns that would make sense to build a bigass cluster to address. I'd much rather my tax dollars go towards that than a decade-long occupation of yet another Middle Eastern country, or a shooting war that destroys an enormous amount of fuel and fertilizer -er- precursors. Plus, building such a cluster would provide a place to put all that aging LLM hardware that's rumored to have been purchased but has no place to go, on account of datacenters being "more difficult to build than expected". | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | LPisGood 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
Half a million dollars is a rounding error to the defense industry. If the risks were evaluated to be a national security problem, it would be trivial to do. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | tyromaniac 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
Synchronization would be the hard part to do performatively, but that's the only obstacle. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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