| ▲ | pixl97 an hour ago | |
You can have violence without killing people, for example in torture the goal is generally not to kill the recipient. And if a doctor has a surgery that goes bad and the patient died, they may have killed someone, but there was no violence. | ||
| ▲ | bamboozled 38 minutes ago | parent [-] | |
But you can't have killing without violence. | ||