|
| ▲ | 31carmichael 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Electricity companies should be 100% air-gapped from any internet connection, whether or not they have outdated software. |
| |
| ▲ | _carbyau_ 25 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | So... how do you feel about apps[0] that let you automate pushing electricity to the grid from your own home battery based on wholesale electricity prices? Nothing could possibly go wrong?!?... [0] https://www.amber.com.au/ | |
| ▲ | manarth an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Air-gapping is a start. Critical National Infrastructure should go further, as Iran found out with Stuxnet. | |
| ▲ | Gigachad 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You can do a one way link, sensors on infrastructure which emit data only but can not receive anything. Then another device like an ESP32 or whatever the industrial version is which reads the data and makes it available to the internet. You now have the ability to remotely monitor the system but hacking it does not allow you to control anything. Though there is still a sizable amount of infrastructure which has no on site workers and needs to be remotely controlled. | |
| ▲ | procflora 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | There is plenty of room for antiquated process and technology in utilities that has nothing to do with grid operations, trust me. :) |
|
|
| ▲ | SteveNuts 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Maybe AI will be able to give us a better FTP server in these industries |
| |
| ▲ | procflora 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | We already have that it's called SFTP. ;) Wait what do you mean you want to use a key to log in, our stuff doesn't support that. |
|
|
| ▲ | Gigachad 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| AI enabled hackers are going to break everything that’s connected to the internet forcing it to move in to the modern era. |
| |
| ▲ | josephg 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Disconnecting is also effective. Fridges don’t need to be on the internet. | | |
| ▲ | oulipo 18 minutes ago | parent [-] | | That's not clear. Perhaps the savings made by having connected fridges over the year has offset the hacking event waste, so overall it could still be worth it. Now they need to apply security patches, and possibly only use the connection for monitoring (read-only) and have a kind of "2FA" / physical presence required when sending commands from the web |
| |
| ▲ | Kina 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | What does AI have to do with this? | | |
| ▲ | Gigachad 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | So much security in the past relied on "no one would bother to look in to this". We now have armies of bots relentlessly scanning over everything which is the main reason everything has been getting hacked over the last few months. | | |
| ▲ | ryandrake 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I'm really hoping that if it comes to pass, millions of AI-based hacking agents running amok on the internet, exploiting every single thing they can find, will at long last finally cause companies to get their shit together and secure their systems. Imagine if your neighborhood had a million autonomous door-opening drones randomly flying around identifying doors and entering them. It wouldn't take long for everyone to lock their doors. | | |
| ▲ | socalgal2 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I don't disagree with you. But let's expand.. Imagine every neighborhood had autonomous brick throwing drones randomly smashing windows. Imagine every neighborhood had autonomous flame throwing drones randomly setting fires. Imagine every neighborhood and autonomous gun shooting drones randomly killing. Imagine every neighborhood and autonomous grenade lobbing drones randomly blowing up walls. You can not defend everything. At some point you have to realize the world works because not every exploitable thing is exploited and we live in a civil society (most of us anyway). I get it, the internet makes things different. But your analogy doesn't work
You can not build a building that can not be destroyed. | |
| ▲ | Gigachad 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | My hope and what I see happening is that the major players in the software space are frantically patching as many bugs as they can right now to keep ahead of attackers, and we come out the other end with incredibly robust software. All the unsupported iot stuff will be obliterated by malicious bots, but the next generation of iot will be both more robust and less directly exposed to the internet. Like how Matter devices sit behind a hub rather than directly connecting to the internet. |
| |
| ▲ | Kina 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I think this is irrelevant. There is no evidence AI was used to do this and it feels like a random way to force AI into the conversation? It’s just spectacularly negligent behavior by people who think that they don’t have to trouble themselves with security, but want the convenience of having their stuff on the Internet for remote management. This is just like the OPM hack 10 years ago. |
| |
| ▲ | eterm 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | AI is ruthlessly effective at finding vulnerabilities. |
| |
| ▲ | chrisweekly 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | into the modern era...
... or back into the dark ages |
|
|
| ▲ | SOLAR_FIELDS 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I am reminded of this every time I fly Southwest Airlines |
