| ▲ | johnnyApplePRNG 14 hours ago |
| Deepseek V4.1 Flash 1017 is out of this world good ... and cheap ... that's why. |
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| ▲ | GlickWick 12 hours ago | parent [-] |
| That's not why. We've entered a pretty adversarial era, and we know there are unexpected attack vectors available in frontier models. Just because you an inspect the weights doesn't mean you can derive the behavior. I suspect the CCP would ban US models if they didn't need to distill them to make their own. |
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| ▲ | 233mhz 24 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | If that's truly your concern you should ban like 90% of anything containing any kind of electronic device because they're all either made in or transit via China at some point | |
| ▲ | tmp10423288442 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > I suspect the CCP would ban US models if they didn't need to distill them to make their own. I'm pretty sure they do, at least officially. But obviously the distillation and API proxies used by Chinese uses are unofficially tolerated and even exploited. | | |
| ▲ | halJordan 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | You're right, you can't run them in China, all models in China need to be vetted and approved by their cyberspace authority. But it's more of a "businesses cannot use them to provide services" kind of thing |
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