| ▲ | bryanlarsen 2 hours ago |
| What's going on in Poland? Why is the EV market share there lower than in the US? |
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| ▲ | jadamczyk 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Probably lower buying power, poor on-the-go charging network and people not “trusting” the Evs as much yet |
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| ▲ | brainwad 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Also electric power generation is dirtier in Poland (still lots of coal), so the relative emissions benefit is lower. | | |
| ▲ | somedude895 an hour ago | parent [-] | | If the power is generated by burning coal and after transmission efficiency losses etc, gasoline cars could actually be better for the environment. | | |
| ▲ | IsTom an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I think I've seen studies that they still aren't. ICE are really (thermally) inefficient. | | |
| ▲ | throwawaytea an hour ago | parent [-] | | Most people don't worry so much about thermal efficiency and care more about cost per mile.. If I could buy a type of vehicle that was only 10% thermally efficient but the fuel was practically free, that would be pretty cost effective even if not thermally efficient. |
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| ▲ | tpm 24 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | If it's 100% coal, then yes, otherwise EVs are better. And since the grids are moving to renewables all over the world, it will continue to get better. | |
| ▲ | brainwad an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | oytis an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | I mean, EVs are supposed to be cheaper than ICE vehicles. They probably would be if EU didn't let its automakers manufacture a high margin market again by blocking more affordable competitors |
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| ▲ | diath an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The median monthly gross income in Poland as of 2026 is 7.6k PLN ($1.9k USD) and like 80-90% of it will go towards your living costs, EVs will probably be a thing here in a decade or so when there's second hand market for cheap used ones coming imported from richer countries. |
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| ▲ | tomwojcik an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| We don't have a lot of superchargers etc. so you mostly rely on what you collect yourself. EVs here make the most sense if you have solar panels on the roof, something to store the energy in and obviously a house. Most of the Poles don't have a house. Edit: superchargers map https://www.tesla.com/pl_pl/findus?bounds=60.47900349927211%... I know it's not about Tesla only, but it says something. |
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| ▲ | ASalazarMX an hour ago | parent [-] | | Local legislation can make a huge difference. In my country, you can install solar panels without storage, pump the electricity directly to the company, consume theirs, and pay the difference. Our house produces more than we consume, so charging an EV would still be mostly free for us. If the energy company didn't buy our electricity, we would be forced to use batteries to store the surplus to charge the EV batteries. The only disadvantage is that during a blackout, we still produce energy but can't use it. Fortunately blackouts are very rare in my region. | | |
| ▲ | tomwojcik 11 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Same here, but the initial cost is gigantic. And after a lot of Poles made the leap of faith and went all in on renewables, the gov changed the rules of buying/selling so now if you don't have a storage, there's a very small chance this investment will ever pay off. And if you want to have a storage, then you basically need a small bunker, a separate structure, to stay compliant, which requires from you to be even more wealthy. |
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| ▲ | SpicyLemonZest 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They weren’t until recently rich enough to fund the required charger infrastructure. Most people don’t want an EV until it flips from “not too big of a deal if you plan ahead” to “of course I can always find a charger”. |
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| ▲ | johanvts 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| EVs are still pretty expensive, besides I'm sure that PIS decided that EVs are somehow a communist plot and will let Tusk turn your kids atheist. EVs are only just around the tipping point where they are cheaper without political incentives. And you need some political good will for charging infrastructure etc. |
