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▲ noosphr 4 hours ago

If you don't break the law you do indeed fall further behind people who do.

Nothing in that post is against using an LLM. It's all about copyright:

>Since every file in OpenBSD has been continually verified to ensure correct Copyright, and we've even deleted code which has incorrect Copyright, the chances of us accepting such new code with such a suspicious Copyright situation is zero.

Once the current bubble pops we're going to see a lot of litigation over copyright enfringement by LLMs. Currently no one wants to rock the boat because everyone hopes to make a trillion dollars from AI, Oracle included, once they see they can't the knives are going to come out and I wouldn't want to be Linux at that point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_LLC_v._Oracle_America

▲greyw 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Copyright will adapt.

Also my personal opinion about copyright _in the FOSS domain_ is that I simply dont care. Copyleft as the GNU folks like to call it is just using the copyright laws to achieves certain free software objectives. If that doesnt work anymore there will be another fix

▲noosphr 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Copyright adaptation literally means billion dollar lawsuits, because copyright only adapts after court decisions.

The BSD licences are not copyleft, or indeed part of the GNU copyright regime.

▲vconnor 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah, the billion dollar lawsuits that are coming after the trillion dollar ones that are gonna hit the AI industry any day now.

Copyright is dead.

▲steelframe an hour ago | parent | next [-]

So long as there's big money interests around copyright, I assure you it will not die. And all the predictions about the knives coming out after the AI bubble pops are spot on.

It took a while for the DMCA to happen after Napster. But it indeed happened, and we all know the saying about history repeating itself.

▲noosphr 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>Copyright is dead.

I remember hearing that in 1996 too.

▲vconnor an hour ago | parent [-]

How was the LLM training scene in 1996?

▲toast0 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> my personal opinion about copyright _in the FOSS domain_ is that I simply dont care.

You may not care, but if the OS you prefer to run is the defendant in a copyright case, that's likely to impact you in a negative way.

▲JdeBP 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It is amusing to see this point made in a discussion that is notionally about one of the BSDs.

"Those that do not learn history" and so forth.