| ▲ | What Is Gridifcation(musicalform.substack.com) | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| 75 points by gumby 3 days ago | 18 comments | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | bitsinthesky an hour ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
When I was in high school our amateur jazz band went into a recording studio to make a fun keepsake album. My memory is fairly hazy, but the whole experience was a lot of fun! Everybody got their microphones and a headset. Maybe we recorded by sections and likely with a metronome track. When we finished we got to go watch the sound guys at work. They meticulously gridified and autotuned every note. After it was all over I got the cd, I listened to my favorite tracks that I got to spend the semester playing with my friends, and it had no resemblance to what I knew our group to be. I think I threw the album away. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | wodenokoto an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
> the kick and bass do not line up exactly. You never hear that in a contemporary pop mix anymore. That is not because musicians lost the ability to play together. Why would losing the ability to play together cause the kick and bass to line up? This is the most forced claudism I've seen in a long time. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | viraptor 16 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
It's definitely extreme these days but it's been going on for quite a long time. Apart from live music, I really enjoy some recordings which were raw and largely untouched. Lilywhite Sessions is a perfect example (the original leak), and there are some really cool rehearsal tapes from Deep Purple floating around. I wish I could get the "as it was recorded" versions of some modern albums. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | khalic an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
Beautiful use of sound analysis tooling, and pretty much incontrovertible evidence. Love it! Maybe that's the thing that makes most pop songs completely uninteresting to me. It just makes me want to go watch live music even more. Support your local bands! | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | lioeters 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
That tempo analysis graph is cool to see, showing the subtle fluctuation of "local tempo", rushing or leaning back intentionally. It's a sophisticated technique though, and I bet outside of pop music, like jazz musicians - especially drummers - still know how to do it; and seasoned listeners also know how to feel and appreciate it. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | daraghkan 15 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
An essay against correcting human error, with an uncorrected human error in the title. Feels like the most on-brand typo possible. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | jrajav 33 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
The entire premise of this essay rests on the idea that musical performances are necessarily played live (particularly, with a live drummer), in the tradition of rock music. This just qualitatively does not apply to much modern music, where drums are played by a machine or computer. Top on the '2025' list is two good examples from totally different genres: Kendrick Lamar (hip hop), and Billie Eilish (vocal-forward electronica). Are electronica and hip hop worse for this? I suppose that's up for debate - but we now have multiple full generations of music listeners and critics who obviously, passionately love those genres, and they've been growing for decades. This is easy to see not just via charts but online discourse and the zeitgeist. Do those genres 'groove' worse and feel less human? This is more subjective, and more debatable, but I would argue that hip hop has redefined what 'groove' can even mean, with its very off-the-grid, loose feel despite the technically very precise machine looping the beats (because producers nudge each beat off the grid, usually in very intentional ways, or play the beat in live then adjust it). And it's hard to argue that electronic dance music in its many forms hasn't made people move and connect with the music's rhythm in powerful ways, despite almost complete quantization in most dimensions. I think purely looking at tempo stddev and not much else papers over these aspects a little much. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | kdfjgbdfkjgb 4 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
this discussion is missing the concept of microtiming | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | breakwaterlabs 13 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
> It is a presentational symbol through which forms of felt life become publicly perceptible. It is utterly baffling to me that this is a thing someone felt needed expressing. Surely, intuitively knowing this is part of being human? How else do we explain the blues, love songs... anything? | |||||||||||||||||||||||