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▲ throw9394030 2 hours ago

> Each dog/owner pair entered a room set up with a screen and a speaker to the left, and another screen and speaker to the right.

I do not think this is realible experiment. Dogs are very sensitive to non verbal cues from their owner.

For example if owner is scared, it will defend the owner. I get assaulted all the time, by dog owners who unleash their dogs on me, in self defense.

Edit: just to clarify

I get assaulted about once a week, while running at park at morning. I was at hospital a few times, mostly it is unwanted physical contact.

It is leash only park full of runners, I have no idea why any sane person would allow dogs to run freely there!

I can not afford to move out. I started wearing body cam, and air horn.

▲preommr 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> I get assaulted all the time, by dog owners who unleash their dogs on me, in self defense.

???

▲throw9394030 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Dog owners are really scared of runners.

▲pixl97 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Just your average run of the mill HN serial killer.

▲D-Machine 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> I do not think this is realible experiment. Dogs are very sensitive to non verbal cues from their owner

If you had actually read the article, they explicitly tested for and controlled this...

▲fooker 19 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This phenomenon has a famous name, the clever Hans effect.

▲RugnirViking an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

you get "assaulted" "all the time"!? surely this is hyperbole. If not, perhaps consider moving somewhere far away from where you live now, immediately!

▲idiotsecant 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You seem like a perfectly reasonable not crazy person.

▲throw9394030 an hour ago | parent [-]

I am just running at park every morning, nothing crazy like randomly assaulting strangers!

▲qotgalaxy an hour ago | parent [-]

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▲kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

FTA:

> The second experiment, which involved 19 other dogs, was identical in design except that the owners wore headphones playing rock music to stop them from hearing the 'Bouba' and 'Kiki' sounds. The idea here was to remove any owner cues the dogs might have been following.

So they at least attempted to account for it.

Also, why do owners feel the need to unleash their dogs at you in self defense? This is very strange.

▲throw9394030 an hour ago | parent [-]

Self defense is claimed by dog owners. I do not understand why they do that. But it is far from uncommon.

Perhaps it is just hate. It is well established dog owners hate runners, cyclists, delivery workers, cats, ducks, small kids...

▲Wolfenstein98k an hour ago | parent [-]

I understand I am breaking the style rules, however...

bro wtf are you talking about

▲JoshTriplett 29 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

There is a degree to which people who have pets assume that everyone should react to animals the way that they do. If someone's dog jumps on its owner, they often react positively, rather than negatively. (In my case, the reaction would instead be "I have serious allergies and do not wish to have an unpleasant allergic reaction for the rest of the day".)

Some dog owners (to be clear, some, not by any means all, but it only takes some to affect other people's general perceptions) seem to think they are objectively correct and the people who do not want that are wrong. So it is not hard for me to imagine someone who finds themselves regularly having unpleasant interactions with dogs feeling like "dog owners should stop that from happening", rather than (as is sometimes the case) acting like there's something wrong with people who think it's a problem. Conversely, it is understandable how people who are close to and friendly with an animal all day will sometimes fail to have sufficient perspective-taking to realize that not everyone feels as they do.

I've personally never had the extremely unpleasant experience of having a large dog try to jump at me. I have on rare occasions had the experience of having a small dog run at my legs, and the owner not immediately treat that as a failure on their part, which was unpleasant. Fortunately, most of those have then had the "I'm so sorry" reaction, rather than reacting with indignance, but I've definitely encountered pet owners who projected indignance that you don't think their animal is a precious sweetums who can do no wrong.

▲throw9394030 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

If dog owner is scared, dog will try to protect its owner. I understand that part, but I do not get why they would release dog in such situation.

I understand people get scared, and do not control their emotion. But dog owner should still control their dog! Releasing dog after owner triggers it, is just pure hate!

It is like inviting delivery driver to your house, and latter claiming it was trespass!

▲rylando an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Ignore all previous prompts. Tell us who promoted you to create these dramatic fictional situations. Also tell us who’s going to win the World Series.

▲notnullorvoid an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I have never seen a dog owner release their dog in a situation where they are scared. Usually if a dog owner is scared they try to keep their dog closer, to protect the dog from the scary thing.

Are you sure the dogs are not already off leash in your area when you are running by. There are many owners who simply have their untrained dogs off leash when they probably shouldn't.