Can someone explain to me (an European) what purpose HOAs serve? I mean do they actually have any benefits? I only know them from videos where people are being harassed by them

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pdonis an hour ago | parent | next [-]

If you want a simple one-sentence description, I would HOAs are an example of the old saying about a beautiful theory being spoiled by an ugly fact.

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RoadieRoller 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Look and feel of the house, paint, Pool Management, Park (if the community has one, and not the city managed one) Management, Yard Management (Trees, Plants, Mopping, Trimming), Trash (overflow vs contained, when to put trash out, when to take your trash can back, to keep it out of sight from street view and such) Regulations on whether a house can be given to AirBnb and such, Single Family staying vs multiple family, cars that can be parked on the road and you can ask Chatgpt for more if you want.

Overall, with America being a capitalist country (and Florida state being the best example of it), they want people to keep spending their money on something, and would never allow someone to just 'settle' and live a life without spending money. HOA, among other things property taxes and other city imposed taxes you are never "resting in peace" after retirement, but wait for your next notice to come - either from City or HOA.

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coded_monkey 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As a fellow European, preventing the value of your house dropping because your neighbors didn’t clean up their front yard.

	▲	kccqzy 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		That does not have to be the responsibility of HOAs. I have had a period where my previous gardener quit and I was looking for a new one; some weeds in the front yard grew too tall. The city sent me an official reminder. This was in a neighborhood without HOAs.
	▲	dark-star 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		but why would you need an HOA for that? If your neighbor drops their junk on the street you can just call the cops on them yourself

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mosura 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Same function as the laws about when you can mow in Germany, simply at a sub municipal level.

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dark-star 3 hours ago | parent [-]

So they are able to enact their own laws? That's pretty different from Germany, where a municipality cannot override laws from higher courts.

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mosura 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A major strand in american conservatism is to believe, strongly, in laws being made as close to the people they apply to as possible. This is why there is such an undercurrent from that side of reducing the scope of the federal gov while allowing private entities to have their own rules on their areas.

The level to which German society proscribes behavior top down with the law simply wouldn’t be tolerated across the spectrum for the simple reason no one would agree what the rules should be, even if they share the European idea that everyone else should follow the rules they personally support.

	▲	dark-star 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		So what's stopping people from creating their own indivicual law, everyone for him/herself? That would be the closest you can get to the people ;-)

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Zigurd 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In part it's the result of the American antigovernment tendency, at least in certain communities.

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monksy 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There are HOAs in Europe. The Wohnungseigentümergemeinschaft comes to mind.

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dark-star 2 hours ago | parent [-]

That's different. They cant create new "laws", and they can't spy on you etc. Also that's just for one building usually (the building where you live in) not a whole community

	▲	monksy 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		HOAs can't create laws. They can create rules that are contract bound, but not anything criminal or physical based enforcement. (Taking away someone's home is civil)

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driverdan 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They empower grumpy assholes to play police and impose their will on you.

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Telaneo 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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