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▲ dathanb82 an hour ago

Sort of? The kotlin standard library yes, but it’s pretty rare to write an app with only the standard library. It feels like you’re dismissing the Java interop as a secondary benefit, but for most uses of Kotlin it’s probably more important to project success than the language itself. So I think it’s accurate that without the JVM Kotlin would be essentially dead.

▲jayd16 an hour ago | parent [-]

> dismissing the Java interop as a secondary benefit

I mean, I don't really care about any of that. I was just responding to the (likely unserious) technical critique that there is no Kotlin VM. As for whether Kotlin as a language would be popular without the JVM, that's a different question.

▲pjmlp 27 minutes ago | parent [-]

I stand by it until Kotlin Native is taken seriously, other than porting Android apps into iOS.