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▲ pjmlp 2 hours ago

A subset of Kotlin has a native backend, not good enough to power JetBrains products, which still require Java Virtual Machine.

It is so good, that JetBrains themselves rather use Rust or C++ for native code libraries on their IDEs, and not officially supported on the Android NDK.

▲jayd16 an hour ago | parent [-]

So the goal post is JetBrains has to rewrite their stack in Kotlin native for Kotlin to not need the JVM?

▲pjmlp 33 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The goal post is that Kotlin is able to stand on its own, without any dependency of JVM ecosystem, for its evolution as ecosystem.

A sign of maturity that Kotlin is grown enough to leave its parents foster home, and stand on its own without pay checks from its folks.

▲oldsecondhand an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Eating your own dogfood has always been a milestone of maturity.