| ▲ | Show HN: The Zelda timeline to catch up before the Ocarina of Time remake(legendofhyrule.com) |
| 80 points by jsomau 4 hours ago | 26 comments |
| I made this ahead of the Ocarina of Time remake which comes out in 17 days. I remember the feeling of playing it as a kid but I hadn’t kept up with the story so I built a timeline to catch up before the Door of Time reopens. Nintendo’s own timeline is the authority here (Hyrule Historia and their chronicle page). The fun part was rethinking how to visualize it. It branches at the end of Ocarina into three eras depending on whether Link wins or loses, so each era is its own thread on the cloth. The threads meet again much later with Breath of the Wild. I had a lot of help from Claude. I’d often thought about building things like this but never found the time between the day job and the rest of life. |
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| ▲ | hyperhello 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| What’s the word for trying to do cluster analysis on what is actually randomly distributed data? The games do have obvious similarities and sometimes refer to each other, but they’re independent events. |
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| ▲ | xnx an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Nintendo now maintains/updates an official timeline: https://zelda.nintendo.com/about/ | | |
| ▲ | bspammer an hour ago | parent [-] | | Sure but that's a retcon. They didn't have this in mind when they made the games. | | |
| ▲ | rolosa 34 minutes ago | parent [-] | | So? They have it now. | | |
| ▲ | bspammer 16 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I don't consider it canon when a different group of people decades later make a timeline, just because they happen to work for the same company. It might as well be fanfic. |
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| ▲ | InsideOutSanta 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'm pretty sure Nintendo itself said at one point that they don't have a clear chronological order and may not tie into each other properly, even though they later retconned an order. Still, it's fun to try to figure out how the puzzle pieces might fit together even though they came out of different boxes. | | |
| ▲ | SubiculumCode an hour ago | parent [-] | | I've only played a handful of these games .. but do they work together as a theme or story progression or are they, as I suspect, pretty much independent rehashes with no real relationship other than making money and appeasing fans? | | |
| ▲ | esperent 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | > no real relationship other than making money and appeasing fans That's a very cynical and dare I say Hackernews take. You could also, less cynically, see them as unique pieces of art that have managed to carve a space in a field where, by necessity, a lot of money is needed to create it (AAA games). Tears of the Kingdom is art. It's a beautiful, simple fairytale told through the medium of a huge open world game and there's something unique in being able to embody that story for so many hours. I haven't played any other Zelda games from the past ~20 years but if they're similarly artful (and by all accounts they are) we don't need to be cynical towards their simplicity or the fact that they're variations on a theme. Pretty much all human art (and business) is, after all. | |
| ▲ | pjerem 41 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | I played most Zelda games of the last 30 years. To the exception of TOTK, I _never_ noticed any link (hehe) between different titles. I know there are some references, but I never catch them. Even Majora's Mask, which is an official follow up occurring months after Ocarina of Time have a totally different story to tell that don't even try to continue the OoT story and is more just another completely independent story barely in the same universe. I love the Zelda games, I consider myself a fan. But they are just that : good games. Each of those games do have interesting stories to tell, interesting universes to visit, but the overall "franchise" lore is totally uninteresting. And honestly I don't think it's something bad, it means each game is free to go where it wants, and every game is free to have an universe as rich as it wants. I see Zelda totally like I see mario : it's just universe codes, not a real lore. Nobody cares if Mario Galaxy happens before or after Mario 64 or Super Mario World. Zelda is the same for me. And that's cool. |
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| ▲ | gchamonlive an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | If they have obvious similarities, they aren't randomly distributed data | |
| ▲ | andai an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations https://xkcd.com/111/ | | |
| ▲ | howunfortunate 16 minutes ago | parent [-] | | The second graph on the spurious correlations page bugs me, that has a plausible explanation! (cultural prestige / zeitgeist centralizing on the hard sciences) |
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| ▲ | delecti 6 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This is a lovely website, but the premise is entirely incorrect (that there's anything you need to know going in), and also spoils details from the game which this is supposedly background for. Nobody should be discussing the timeline before playing the games. And not from some kind of purity perspective, but just because it's nerd shit that you won't get anything out of until you do. I really enjoy thinking and talking about the timeline, but I'm under no illusion that it's anything more than after-the-fact fanfiction. |
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| ▲ | bovermyer an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I played Legend of Zelda, Adventure of Link, A Link to the Past, and Ocarina of Time to conclusion. I haven't really played any Zelda games since then, except maybe for a few minutes for a few of them. I'm a little surprised to hear that Ocarina of Time is getting a remake. I take it it's going to be a Switch 2 exclusive? |
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| ▲ | pjerem 35 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | If you are still interested in the franchise and in video games, what I can tell you is that the Zelda franchise ages like good wine. In other words : if you have good memories of your experiences with those games, do yourself the favor of playing the other titles, they are equally good. | |
| ▲ | xnx an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yes |
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| ▲ | sharkbot 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Don't forget to include: - Link: The Faces of Evil - Zelda: The Wand of Gamelon - Link's Crossbow Training - the various Hyrule Warriors games Good luck! :) |
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| ▲ | yunruse an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Per a scholar in the field [0], clearly The Legend of Zelda Monopoly is the pin which holds the entire Zelda timeline together! [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-25c8Rsobw | |
| ▲ | BewareTheYiga 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I thought the Hyrule Warriors games were not canon. Did I get that wrong? | | |
| ▲ | whateveracct 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | i think the second one is canon but it has time travel and stuff so it's also basically not (the second one wasn't very good..but the first is a great game and runs even better on Switch 2.) | | |
| ▲ | xnx an hour ago | parent [-] | | Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity gets a "Definitive Edition" Feb 25, 2027. Will be interesting to see if gameplay improves. |
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| ▲ | xnx 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Hyrule Warriors: Age of Imprisonment is canon. |
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| ▲ | cubefox an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Apocrypha! |
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| ▲ | cr125rider 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This is really fun! Great design! |
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| ▲ | petarb an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Having trouble loading the link |
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| ▲ | candlemas 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| There's a story? |