It's absolutely not SOTA for vibe coding a whole app, but for guided work it is great.

platinumrad 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Is anyone actually oneshotting a whole app or even vibecoding one in multiple steps without it being "guided work"? I really wish announcements (like DeepSeek's recent one) would stop focusing on the ability of the model to spit out Minecraft clones on demand.

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MrScruff 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

OP didn’t mention one-shotting.

There are plenty of use cases for the ability to quickly through together and refine an application without reviewing the code though.

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antoniojtorres 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Some people are trying to one shot entire companies

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bahmboo 2 hours ago | parent [-]

And failing.

	▲	IshKebab 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Someone at work vibe coded a replacement for a entire third party SaaS that we were using in a week. Their version is better. It wasn't one-shotted of course but I don't think there's much difference in the outcome between one-shot and like 100-shot over a week. That company is still doomed. Think of something like Trello. Who is going to pay for that when you can easily vibe code something superior (yes you really can now).

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gcanyon 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have one-shotted the two most recent relatively complex apps I've tried:

1. a puzzle game with complex interplay, pieces to place, design vs. play mode, storing multiple solutions with the puzzle, and more. I've since iterated something like 200 times as I worked out the design etc., but the first iteration was 99% correct and what I asked for

2. a learn-to-read application with built-in stories (that the LLM wrote) the ability to import epub, text, and HTML, that uses the built-in speech libraries as a default, but also supports an open-source TTS library that I gave in the first prompt, tracks progress and problem workds, has multiple games to reinforce learning, and has a parental mode for tracking progress and configuring the tool overall.

Frankly I was stunned that Claude one-shotted that second app, there was a lot in the prompt, and it did it all. I fully expected to have to iterate on the first draft multiple times. But it worked out of the box.

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IshKebab 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

With Opus 5.5 you can vibe code a whole app without reading the code at all. Obviously you still have to tell it what to make.

With earlier models that doesn't really work. You really have to read the code and watch it like a hawk or it will make a big mess.

To put it another way, with lesser models you have to guide them at a code level. With Opus 5.5 you only have to guide it at an architectural / feature level.

	▲	microtonal 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		People said the same for 5.0, 4.8, 4.7, and... I am not disputing that the models are getting better for vibe coding. But I think people have very different standards of what a 'big mess' or 'maintainable software' is.

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throwaw12 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

which model is SOTA for vibe coding a whole app? I always use models+agents in guided setup

the moment there is a model which can code whole app, we can fairly say software engineering is done.

	▲	IshKebab 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Opus 5.5 + Claude Code (or probably any agent harness; I don't think they make that much difference). I wouldn't say software engineering is done quite yet but yeah it's definitely never going to be the same.