| ▲ | kcplate 2 hours ago |
| What law do you believe that they have broken? |
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| ▲ | Jcampuzano2 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Combined, their companies have broken basically every law in the book that you could when it comes to privacy and copyright. |
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| ▲ | nfw2 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | How copyright applies to ai training hasn't been established. | | |
| ▲ | shimman an hour ago | parent [-] | | Good news, Congress can change the law to be whatever society wants. | | |
| ▲ | nfw2 an hour ago | parent [-] | | congress can not pass ex post facto laws making things in the past retroactively illegal, it's in the constitution |
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| ▲ | senordevnyc 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Gasp, not copyright! Quick, get the pitchforks!! |
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| ▲ | gilrain 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What sort of lion lives in the sea? |
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| ▲ | mindslight an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It would be quicker if you listed what laws you think they haven't broken. And remember, the bar for conspiracy is quite low. |
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| ▲ | jiggawatts 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Every AI company has flagrantly violated copyright, to begin with. But that's not the point! The point is that the laws are written by the oligarchs, for the oligarchs. Laws are made to protect wealth and power, so of course the wealthy and powerful haven't "broken" them. |
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| ▲ | nfw2 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | A flagrant violation requires clearly established jurisprudence. What is considered fair use has always been nebulous, and to the extent that there are standards on it, it's mainly through established precedence, of which there is none on AI training. One can argue that the closest thing to an AI's training on a book is a person reading a book and remembering the details, which i'm sure you reject, but it's not prima facie unreasonable. | |
| ▲ | senordevnyc 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This is genuinely so funny to me. Five years ago this site was ready to burn you at the stake if you defended copyright laws, which clearly were only written to protect the rich and powerful, like Disney! Now those laws are obviously there to defend the little guy against the oligarchs, and we should ready our pitchforks to march on Silicon Valley for daring to violate our precious copyright laws!! | | |
| ▲ | ftmch 32 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I think HN takes issue with the hypocrisy of the matter. Copyright law was used to punish regular people for consuming illegal media, but AI tech companies are forgiven for using the same illegal methods to run a business. | |
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| ▲ | kevmo 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| RICO, sexual assault of minors, treason, labor laws, drug laws, and probably a million other things. |
