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▲ waingake 6 hours ago

What's interesting to me is how high DeepSeek is on these graphs considering it is so cheap you don't think about it (like $5 usd per month cheap.)

▲chicagobuss 6 hours ago | parent [-]

when something is that cheap, just remember, you're giving something valuable to the people selling you that thing

▲janalsncm 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Just an unrelated PSA that Anthropic trains on your Claude code sessions unless you disable it:

https://www.anthropic.com/news/updates-to-our-consumer-terms

▲TomGarden 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I mean, same goes for OpenAI. Why point out only Anthropic?

For OpenAI they also have a separate opt-out for stopping training on your codex environment:

"Codex has a separate Include environments setting in Codex settings that controls whether additional context from your Codex environments can be used to train OpenAI models. Changing your ChatGPT setting or opting out through the Privacy Portal does not change that setting." https://help.openai.com/en/articles/7730893-data-controls-in...

▲Striving7340 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

nonono when Anthropic does it, it's a fair business practice, when Chinese companies do it, it's evil. See also "distillation"

▲amelius 25 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If it's not cheap you might be doing the same thing ...

▲coffinbirth 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not necessarily, you can buy low priced Deepseek inference also from many services that guarantee ZDR and GDPR compliance. My personal rule is: Never buy inference from those who also train models, because they have an inherent incentive to abuse your data to train their models.

▲homarp 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Also because the independent services won't have incentive to resell your data. (to have another income and therefore make their inference cost lower, enabling them to gain over competition)

▲Rodmine 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No, it's open source and is actually cheap to run, while performing the same, which is why it is being run and provided by 31 different providers for Openrouter.