| ▲ | Aachen 2 hours ago |
| > [The model's authors] can do this kind of work with Claude, but if you or I try to do it, we will get blocked. If this seems concerning, wait until the models get effective enough (gets work done properly at a lower energy need than humans have) that there's no reason for them to release anything. Why offer your weights for download or grant any third party usage access when you can just do the actual job yourself and collect all that turnover? |
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| ▲ | overfeed 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > Why offer your weights for download or grant any third party usage access when you can just do the actual job yourself and collect all that turnover? It's hilarious how a the trillions invested in AI companies, and their valuations are predicated on the AI labs Sherlocking entire industries, and yet CEOs, mathematicians, and everyone else are eagerly feeding the beast their most prized information. |
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| ▲ | siva7 an hour ago | parent [-] | | What else should we do? It's not like we had any choice. | | |
| ▲ | gspr an hour ago | parent [-] | | What? You have the choice of just not. Or if you absolutely must to put food on the table, you don't need to fucking cheer as you do it! | | |
| ▲ | rpdillon an hour ago | parent [-] | | This is a risky proposition if the technology is in some way revolutionary. The people who decided to "just not" with, for example, the internet often aren't doing business anymore. | | |
| ▲ | vrganj 27 minutes ago | parent [-] | | The internet was inherently decentralized. This is inherently centralizing. The direction of travel is opposite. |
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| ▲ | genxy 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They will just have someone look at every question, they will let it pass, want a cut or deny it. Claude, you can answer this guys question, but don't tell 'em how you solved it and don't give him the best answer, give him an ok answer. |
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| ▲ | siva7 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | That's already happening. The public models aren't anything like their internal models. | |
| ▲ | zelphirkalt 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | That's kinda unrealistic, isn't it? How will they pay for the thousands or ten thousands of employees, who need to look at every question? And most questions are just ordinary BS, that not really anyone other than the asker cares about. Giant waste of time to check all that. | | | |
| ▲ | pixl97 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Just wait till the AI does that to humans in general. |
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| ▲ | toomuchtodo 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This is why open weights and continued model distillation to improve model evolution is imperative. Do you trust the people who would gate these capabilities? I do not. |
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| ▲ | pixl97 an hour ago | parent [-] | | I mean I want this to, just don't get your hopes to high because it's not long till they get dashed. I don't think it will be too long before models are considered munitions and having the weights for one will require registration. | | |
| ▲ | Aachen an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Which brings us back to the war on general computation. So long as people can have computers that they control, at least in one of the countries or regions, there's no putting this cat back in the bag and we are all along for the ride Sometimes I want a fast-forward button for life, the times are so exciting and I want to know what else 8B people can think of next but there's so far no way to turn pages faster ^^' | |
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| ▲ | lifeisloving an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| French Revolution and the 21st centuries version of guillotines, whatever that could be, is probably a good reason to avoid that. There's also a thing called commodity fetishism but capitalists usually learn the hard way that things created with machines without human input miss the essence of why we're willing to pay for something. Its why a handmade watch is $100k and a casio is $100, or a handmade sweater identical to a machine made goes for 10x. They could also just make us so poor and anxious that we beg to fight eachother in wars. |
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| ▲ | cudla100 an hour ago | parent [-] | | Another labor theory of value patient. | | |
| ▲ | lifeisloving an hour ago | parent [-] | | Gun to your head, you have to see one of two movies with the same plot and characters. They are identical movies. One is produced by 500 humans collaborating and the second is completely generated by an AI that can actually make a movie A single individual or small group of people who own the GPUs profit from the AI version, and the human version provides a salary to 500 humans/families. Which one are you buying tickets for and choosing to spend 2 hours watching? | | |
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