| ▲ | Rabbit504030201 a day ago |
| The project's primary site should not be GitHub, and I am serious. Playstation 5 is not some historical curiosity and Sony might strike the page down any hour now. Those projects should default to hosts less geared toward corporate governancy; custom internet domain being the first requirement. |
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| ▲ | GuB-42 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| It is just a git repository. Sure, you may lost some issues if it is stuck down and no one made a backup, but the important part, the code is now spread all over the internet. Should they want to migrate, all they need is to ask those who used GitHub as the origin to do a "git remote origin set-url". That's one of the best things with git (among with other DVCSs), it is incredibly resilient. I remember during an interview of Linus Torvalds about backups, he says he doesn't backup his work in the traditional sense, he has no real reason to when everything he does is copied millions of time. The real point of GitHub for such a project is because GitHub is really popular, and it has a social network aspect to it. So yes, you are going to lose it if you get kicked out of GitHub, but by choosing a lesser known platform you won't get it in the first place. Also, their website is not on GitHub, so kicking them out of GitHub won't make them disappear completely. |
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| ▲ | Retr0id a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm sure Sony has an opinion of the jailbreaks that enable this, but they really don't give a shit about anyone running llama.cpp. Why would they? They're just glad you're not pirating games. |
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| ▲ | xp84 a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Is there a real or imagined hardware subsidy on the PS5 hardware though? In other words, is the current MSRP below what Sony would charge in a hypothetical world where they weren’t involved in any form of gaming software business, with an assumption that they will make additional margin dollars from game sales? I can see some manager making the case that repurposing the hardware for non-gaming use is taking food off his family’s table, in a manner of speaking. If so, it’s an argument that you don’t want this type of use to become popular and have PS5s start flying off shelves and never having games bought for them. | | |
| ▲ | sourweasel a day ago | parent | next [-] | | The PS5 hardware is essentially identical to the AMD BC-250 mining rig, with the major difference being that the media engine (VCN for encoding/decoding video) is disabled in the miner because it requires Sony's proprietary bios. The BC-250 was created from binned chips that didn't meet Sony's specs and had 2 of 8 cores disabled, but many users successfully re-enabled them and bumped active CUs on the GPU from 24 to 40. To your point, it was briefly possible to buy them for under $100 until word spread that they make decent steam machines, so I'm guessing that Sony doesn't need to sell any games to turn a profit. Even at their current prices it would be far cheaper to use the BC-250 for local inference. | | |
| ▲ | rlpb 17 hours ago | parent [-] | | > To your point, it was briefly possible to buy them for under $100 until word spread that they make decent steam machines, so I'm guessing that Sony doesn't need to sell any games to turn a profit. I don't follow your logic. If the BC-250 was made from PS5 quality control failures, then why would their pricing have any bearing on the PS5's profitability, except as an effort to increase margins? Does cost not remain independent of pricing? As far as I cam infer from what you said, it could be that the PS5 was sold at a loss and still is even with the BC-250 helping, or that it was sold at a profit and is still is with the BC-250 helping. What am I missing? | | |
| ▲ | gunalx 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | No it implies that å ps5 hardware wise wouldnt be ordets of magnitude of å bc250 to produce, and it therefore probably dosent have negative margins at least. | | |
| ▲ | sourweasel 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | Exactly, that's what I was getting at. It's similar to Intel chip production and binning. Take Skylake for example: if a 4 core i7 chip had a core that didn't pass testing, they would disable the bad core and one more and process the chip as an i3. i5 chips were just i7 silicon with hyperthreading disabled. Same chip fab, same production cost, but the failed chips became a lower tier that sold for 35% and 70% of the top tier product. In the case of the PS5 chips, the performance difference between binned and pristine chips was even less, it still had 75% of the cores usable. |
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| ▲ | tancop 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | There is no hardware subsidy in the traditional sense. The last time Sony was selling consoles at a loss was the fat PS3 and they learned their lesson from all the compute clusters. Every PS5 is sold at a profit. The only way they can lose money is if their existing users stop buying games and that's not happening yet. Maybe when vibe coded community servers for online games get better and everyone jailbreaks their console because they don't have to worry about getting banned. But even with that every unit sold is a net positive for them because they make money off the sale, and if they run out they can use it to justify higher prices. |
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| ▲ | pelcg 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I don't think they care, they will just block this functionality in future updates. |
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| ▲ | dewey 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That's exactly why you put it on GitHub, which is the most visible place so people will mirror, check it out locally etc. |
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| ▲ | z3c0 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | I agree with you in the broad sense but self-hosted services like forgejo support mirroring to GitHub, GitLab, Bitbucket, etc. |
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| ▲ | minimaxir a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There's no feasible way to avoid takedowns/DMCA in 2026 unless you do TOR shenanigans. Even with a custom domain, Sony could just DMCA the web host for the project. |
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| ▲ | agoodusername63 a day ago | parent | next [-] | | There are several public git hosts hosted in countries that don't care about DMCA. And nothing is stopping you from renting a VPS from a provider based in that country and running gitlab or something. The worst part is sharing around a sketchy URL but, that just comes with the territory when you're in the DMCA dodging parts of the internet. | | |
| ▲ | Computer0 a day ago | parent | next [-] | | What are they named? | |
| ▲ | Mindwipe 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | There are not. Renting a VPS from a country that genuinely doesn't is pretty risky for numerous reasons, least of all international sanctions. |
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| ▲ | haunter a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Magnet link, once the DHT networks picks it up (and there are seeders) no one will take it down unless they go after every single IP address | | |
| ▲ | monkpit 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It would be cool if there were some way to have a p2p git remote. Not sure how it would work with pushes, but it’s intriguing. | |
| ▲ | toomuchtodo a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Any recommendations for code that’ll one shot pull a GitHub repo zip from an repo url and announce and seed a magnet torrent? Looking for similar UX to https://archive.softwareheritage.org/save/ (which archives an source control repo on demand from a url, but is still a single point of failure) | | |
| ▲ | pdntspa a day ago | parent [-] | | Seems like something Opus could author in a few minutes given the right credentials | | |
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| ▲ | kevmo314 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Sure you can. This repo has definitely been vacuumed into the latest training data dump, so the next generation of models will happily spit out a similar reproduction, Sony be damned! | | | |
| ▲ | 2III7 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Torrents. Got the leaked GTA6 videos by torrenting and they're still easily available on public trackers. Don't see why projects like these couldn't be distributed similarly if shit hits the fan. | |
| ▲ | bubbluppugus a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | git is a distributed protocol that does not demand distribution happen through github.com Private keys and private endpoints is all we need | | |
| ▲ | neuronexmachina a day ago | parent [-] | | There's also something like radicle: https://radicle.dev/ >Radicle is an open source, peer-to-peer code collaboration stack built on Git. Unlike centralized code hosting platforms, there is no single entity controlling the network. Repositories are replicated across peers in a decentralized manner, and users are in full control of their data and workflow. |
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| ▲ | nekusar a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Gitflic.ru begs to differ. | |
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| ▲ | jrm4 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm still waiting for people to figure out that Git needs no "hub" at all. |
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| ▲ | dewey 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | The "but don't you know git is distributed" commentary always sounds clever, but it really isn't. GitHub isn't just used to host your actual git work tree and everyone knows that, it's an issue tracker, an easy way for projects to get contributions as everyone already has a GitHub account, an easy way to receive bug reports, CI, a website for your project, a popularity metric like GitHub stars (For better or worse). |
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| ▲ | anigbrowl 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Maybe so, but the Github page isn't hosting or instructing anyone to jailbreak their PS5, which in any case would be a civil matter. They're just telling you what you can do with the hardware. I'm gonna guess you could just run it on a BC-250, although this wouldn't be as aesthetically pleasing to look at as the PS5. |
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| ▲ | LoganDark a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Those projects should default to hosts less geared toward corporate governancy; custom internet domain being the first requirement. I struggle to think of anywhere on the entire open internet you could put something like this where it could not be taken down. |
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| ▲ | mindslight a day ago | parent [-] | | It'd be kind of interesting if someone started a public git host whose main value add was being judgement proof, like Anna's Archive, torrent sites, etc. The methods exist, it's just a matter of implementation and getting a critical mass. Obviously TOR-hidden-service first, but then making it available to naive hidden browsers would be its own public service. I hate the centralization of centralized git watering holes, but it is what it is. And frankly getting older and not as able to keep up, having all the cool projects in one place would massively help my street cred. | | |
| ▲ | LoganDark 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | That's why I specified open internet, because while it's possible to make hidden services, the Domain Name System will pretty much always be subject to censorship. The problem, of course, still arises when you want to guide users to your hidden service, when sharing the link anywhere will get it taken down. This already happens with magnet links. | | |
| ▲ | mindslight 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | That was my point though. Anna's Archive maintains several "open web" domains, so when one ends up getting censored it's not a big deal, they just spin up more. | | |
| ▲ | LoganDark 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | If every cybersecurity researcher starts hosting their most potent source code on a single platform, you're gonna start seeing enforcement speed up to the point where new domains are taken down in days (or faster), and there will be substantial efforts to attack the source with raids and prison time. If it gets bad enough, you will literally start to see US agents traveling internationally to perform targeted strikes. This is assuming the platform wouldn't start censoring code based on its provenance or purpose, but that would make everyone leave. It's been proven time and time again that the only way to pull something like this off is to be completely untraceable. If the feds can ever find you, that's it. Which creates difficulty because in order for somebody to be able to visit your site with a normal web browser, they need to be able to trace something, and that can always be attacked. Even if that doesn't reach all the way to the source, it means you have to both produce infinite new traceable points and somehow distribute the knowledge to your clearweb users too. |
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