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▲ elbenshira 3 hours ago

> Let’s be clear about what this means: it gives them access to the corporate bond market. What they’re lobbying for is that pension funds, life insurance, etc., can take exposure to these companies. Suddenly the everyman, your mom and dad, have significant exposure to these companies and their circular financing deals without even knowing it. This is disgusting.

What's the problem? Fund managers—who are in a position to understand the risks more than your everyday investor—can decide if they want buy these bonds or not, just like any other public corporate bond.

▲nickysielicki 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Most pensions and life insurers and so on are mandate constrained to investment grade only.

2008 wasn't fund managers deciding all together in unison to buy bad mortgages. It was AAA ratings on diversified MBS that should have been rated much lower giving them cover to load up.

▲intrasight 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

CoreWeave is making the same case for its bonds.

▲rhdunn 2 hours ago | parent [-]

And CoreWeave's stocks are trending down due to concerns over its debts.

[1] https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-today-dow-sp-5...

[2] https://www.tradingview.com/news/seekingalpha:173ffc32a094b:...

[3] https://www.cnbc.com/2026/10/15/coreweave-credit-default-swa...

▲33d3aa 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Correct - there are no freebies here!

You can't really rip off bond-holders when you are not positive EBIT and EBITDA...

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